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Purveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:51 PM Original message |
AIPAC To Members: Don't Boo Obama |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. Let me get this straight. Our president is giving a speech to a foreign special interest group |
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monmouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Israel. You mean the country we send boatloads of money to? That Israel? |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 03:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. It's not foreign: it's American |
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kirby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. There is a difference... |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Not true |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Ah - the dual loyalty card |
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kirby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. You misunderstood me... |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. You presume loyalty to Israel equates to support of Israel's foreign policy |
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BlueMTexpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 07:46 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Well said ... nt |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 08:23 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. No one presumed such a thing. What can be presumed, and AIPAC will admit, is that |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. The person I was replying to explicitly stated... |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:57 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. And that person was correct. Their many prominent members of AIPAC who |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Do you have proof of that? |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 06:07 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Read the Israel lobby by Mearsheimer and Walt. n/t |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Mearsheimer and Walt are Neorealists trying to explain away an anomaly in their worldview |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 04:00 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Judging by your critique, it's obvious that you didn't read it. n/t |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Seems that somebody is accusing you of the same thing |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 02:13 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. What prominent AIPAC members are more loyal to Israel than America? |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. As I stated to the other poster, read The Israel Lobby by Mearsheimer and Walt. n/t |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 05:58 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Nowhere in The Israel Lobby do the authors make the accusation you made |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 09:34 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Yes they did. There's an entire section titled Influencing Congress |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 10:28 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. No they don't - nowhere in that section is any claim made about being loyal to Israel over America |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 10:35 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. You just ignored an entire paragraph that quotes Dick Armey. Here it is again: |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. It doesn't say what you are imagining it says |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. So your argument is "Armey said it, but he didn't mean it the way it sounded." |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:28 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Ah - even more revolting |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Would you say that of the National Council on US-Arab Relations? |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
24. Plenty of bigots say the same thing about La Raza or National Council on U.S.-Arab Relations. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 08:21 AM Response to Reply #8 |
25. It's foreign, not American. AIPAC is not a Jewish lobby group, it's an |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. AIPAC is not a foreign group |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 08:31 AM Response to Reply #11 |
28. AIPAC is compromised of more than American Jews. n/t |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 02:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Yes, but there are no members who are not American |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. You can also be a dual citizen. n/t |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
2. If they boo him, that means he did something right |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
4. Israel's Hardest Line Supporters, Sir, Seem Determined To Make It A Pariah |
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Vicar In A Tutu (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I just don't understand the obsession. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. I would wager that 95% of Jewish Democrats, like me, are opposed to Likud governments in Israel |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Some of the more fanatical people won't be happy until the President wraps himself un the Israeli fl |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. And others wont be happy |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Given that there's 0 doubt who the US has favored all these years. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 02:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
36. Big Oil has a huge influence in our Congress |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 07:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
50. You can zero sum it. Save the money by not sending it. It also cuts down on |
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asjr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
5. The Pakistanis are booing him and |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 06:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. Good point. n/t |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
13. The fact that he is even going there |
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ReturnoftheDjedi (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:21 AM Response to Reply #13 |
23. The fact that Obama wants 1967 borders speaks volumes about their lack of power over him |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 08:25 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. He doesn't want 1967 borders, he wants 1967 borders with land swaps. Furthermore, this is not a new |
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ReturnoftheDjedi (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Then why are the Israeli's so pissed? They said Bush promised them this would not be the case. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Some are pissed some are pleased |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 06:09 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. I don't know where you come up with Obama and SS cuts. Care to elaborate? n/t |
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