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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:22 PM
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Arizona's Senate passed a bill that would keep me from being president
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 12:24 PM by CreekDog
I don't have the long form as it requires and I don't have any of the alternative documents --nor do I even know where to get them. And I was born here in California and I have an official copy of my birth certificate which was good enough to get me a passport.

http://www.azleg.gov//FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext...

HOUSE BILL 2177

AN ACT

...

amending section 16‑311, arizona revised statutes; amending title 16, chapter 4, article 6, Arizona Revised Statutes, by adding section 16‑507.01; relating to presidential elections.

16-507.01. Presidential candidates; affidavit of qualifications; enforcement

A. The national political party committee for a candidate for president for a party that is entitled to continued representation on the ballot shall provide to the secretary of state written notice of that political party's nomination of its candidates for president and vice‑president. Within ten days after submittal of the names of the candidates, the national political party committee shall submit an affidavit of the presidential candidate in which the presidential candidate states the candidate's citizenship and age and shall append to the affidavit documents that prove that the candidate is a natural born citizen, prove the candidate's age and prove that the candidate meets the residency requirements for President of the United States as prescribed in article II, section 1, Constitution of the United States.

B. The affidavit prescribed in subsection A shall include references to and attachment of all of the following, which shall be sworn to under penalty of perjury:

1. A certified copy of the presidential candidate's long form birth certificate that includes at least the date and place of birth, the names of the hospital and the attending physician, if applicable, and signatures of any witnesses in attendance. If the candidate does not possess a long form birth certificate as required by this paragraph, the candidate may attach two or more of the following documents that shall take the place of the long form birth certificate if the candidate swears to their authenticity and validity and the documents contain enough information for the secretary of state to determine if the candidate meets the requirements prescribed in article II, section 1, constitution of the United States:

(a) Early baptismal or circumcision certificate.

(b) Hospital birth record.

(c) Postpartum medical record for the mother or child signed by the doctor or midwife or the person who delivered or examined the child after birth.

(d) Early census record.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:24 PM
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1. Of course, that's assuming federal law cares what Arizona has to say about federal elections. (nt)
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:26 PM
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7. The federal election is 50 states doing their own elections.
Other than Constitutional requirements there is no federal election law telling the states how to run their elections.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:11 AM
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11. The rules for who can be President are in the Constitution.
The states can't make up their own definitions.
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 06:11 PM
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15. They can probably have whatever rules for ballot access they like.
They could even cancel elections and choose for themselves who'll get their state's electoral votes.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:30 PM
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2. I guess they don't support the Constitution.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:37 PM
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3. How the hell is a baptismal or circumcision cert more credible than a certificate of live birth?
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:42 PM
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4. Absolutely.
It is not a document that requires an authorized signature that is recognized by the government.

I wonder if the BMV would accept such certificates to get a drivers license?
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:59 PM
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5. Baptism? What if you're Jewish or Muslim---or none of the above?
b) Hospital birth record? What if you were natural birth at home?

c) medical record letter? that's more viable than a birth certificate?

d) early census record? <--I was lost at this tone.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:13 PM
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6. Or circumcision? That's religious too.
And no women either.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 07:02 AM
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8. There are just no words.
This is entirely a bill against Obama.
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lindalou65 Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 07:58 AM
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9. So, if.......
in the 2012 election, Arizona deems Obama not a viable candidate due to his "lack of proper birth documents" does that mean that Democrats, Independents or any Repubs who do not like the Repub candidates (or Independents) will be SOL and not get to vote? In essence, these voters are being denied their right to vote for their candidate because of Arizona's law. I think Federal law will trump Arizona's law at the end of the day. If I lived in AZ, I would be livid right about now. Where is the outrage from the voters?
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:09 AM
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10. Dont fret it.. I suspect the Prez will produce these docs..
Obama has this under control or he would not be running again.
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mercuryblues Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 08:21 AM
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12. well
Edited on Sat Apr-16-11 08:54 AM by mercuryblues
(a) Early baptismal or circumcision certificate.
- religious test

(b) Hospital birth record.

The hospital I was born in was torn down in the 90's. I have no idea what they did with those records.

(c) Postpartum medical record for the mother or child signed by the doctor or midwife or the person who delivered or examined the child after birth.

That doctor died in the 90's. maybe his records are being kept with the old records from the hospital.

(d) Early census record.

Unless of course a republican president determines them to be classified. But even a census record does not determine where someone was born.

edited for spelling
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:14 AM
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13. And John McCain too.
Can someone explain to me how a baptismal or circumcision certificate ensures that you were born in a specific place? God the Arizona legislature is fucking stupid.

This ridiculous law is unconstitutional and oversteps state authority and will be shot down.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:17 AM
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14. I wouldn't vote for you anyway
You've been too rude to me.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 06:36 PM
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16. Despite this positive aspect of the bill, there are bigger downsides
:D
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