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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:32 AM
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Does Boehner seem a bit defensive?
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 10:35 AM by ProSense

Boehner: Spending cuts that don't cut spending are 'real cuts'

by Jed Lewison

Yesterday, news began to spread that the spending 'cut' deal negotiated by John Boehner doesn't actually cut spendingnot even discretionary spending. The news gives conservatives, who had already begun bailing on the deal, yet another reason to oppose it. Even National Review is urging a no vote.

And now John Boehner has reacted to the brewing controversy, on Twitter:



His point? The cuts actually are cuts to budgetary authority. That's true. But spending isn't measured by budgetary authority. Spending is measured by, well, spending. And because they cut budgetary authority in spending accounts that weren't being fully spent, they didn't actually cut spending. That's actually a good thing for the economy, but it sure isn't what Boehner has been selling to the tea partiers. He told them he cut spending, not budgetary authority. And he's going to have a helluva' time convincing them that they are "real cuts" when spendingeven discretionary spendingis growing by $15.7 billion over FY2010 levels.

One of two things happens here. Either the GOP walks the plank and votes for a spending 'cut' deal that doesn't really cut spending, or enough of them vote against the deal that Boehner needs to turn to Nancy Pelosi in order to get the votes to avert a government shutdown. Either way, when it's all done, there are going to be tears in John Boehner's eyes.

:rofl:


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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:38 AM
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1. I'd prefer a teaparty challenge in his future.
Make him spend the cash provided by big corporations in a cat fight over who will spend less. Maybe he will lose. An vocal extremist might be easier to beat.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:42 AM
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2. K & R. n/t
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:56 AM
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3. To Bohner---> Cry me a river Bitch!
or have another drink John... you do not feel any pain to begin with... You did this to your self you Koch pandering mutherfucker!
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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:00 AM
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4. nice post
well said. :)
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:47 PM
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5. Could we stir the pot some more for Boehner and the teabaggers?
Wasn't there a cut to the Census budget for the amounts not spent during the Census?

Wouldn't the remaining amount in the budget been returned at the end of the fiscal year regardless of what they just agreed to?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:55 PM
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6. Budget deal passes, but Boehner struggles with his caucus
BUDGET DEAL PASSES, BUT BOEHNER STRUGGLES WITH HIS CAUCUS....

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But pay close attention to the partisan breakdown. Most Democrats opposed the deal (81 to 108) while most Republicans supported it (179 to 59).

That's good news for Boehner, right? Well, not really. The day after the deal was struck, GOP leaders said they expected some defections on this, but thought the total would go no higher than 40, and the leadership was prepared to "work strenuously to keep the number below 30."

The final tally of GOP defections was 59.

Also note, this means divisions among Republicans were so significant, the budget deal would have died, rather easily, were it not for House Democrats who once again saved Boehner.

I'm sure the Speaker is pleased the deal went through, but he can't be pleased with the margin -- a fourth of Boehner's own caucus rejected the budget deal he personally negotiated.

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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:06 PM
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7. And Eric Cantor is nowhere to be seen.
Bet he's sharpening up his dagger.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:19 PM
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8. and the teabaggers will be sitting there scratching their heads with vacant expressions
trying to understand what "budget authority" is.
:rofl:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:38 PM
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9. No Shutdown -- For Now: Senate Passes Six-Month Spending Bill
No Shutdown -- For Now: Senate Passes Six-Month Spending Bill

The fighting's over. For the next several days, at least.

Following the House's lead, the Senate voted Thursday 81-19 to fund the government through September. The government shutdown that many observers expected -- and that nearly came to pass -- will not happen. For now.

Though the fight over government funding has been resolved, Republicans and Democrats will now fight overlapping battles to raise the national debt limit and fund the government next year. Each of those fights could result in government shutdowns, too. A default on U.S. obligations would have much farther-reaching consequences.

The Senate also killed two House-passed "corrections" to the spending bill -- one that would have defunded Planned Parenthood and another that would have defunded the implementation of health care reform. Now the legislation heads to the White House for President Obama's signature.


Roll Call


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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:42 PM
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10. He's not defensive, you're the one being defensive, don't you see that ...
Here is the video that proves it ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc2o8ywKqos

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 06:01 PM
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11. Boner in deep shit with the Baggers.....the GOP is in deep shit with the American Unions,
The Koch Bros is in deep shit because of recent revelations re their octopus grip on the economy,

Ryan is in deep doo because his plan is not feasible and a hard sell...

Cantor is screwed because he lost his brain on the way home....seach teams have failed to locate his brains to mdate.

Trump never did have it...he is a fraud..

Palin is now passe.

VOTE BLUE...forget the distractive divisive Baggers..
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 06:11 PM
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12. He's comedicly weak with his own caucus. Which mean there's a huge schism developing on the right.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 06:23 PM
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13. He'll be getting his puff on a lot
His own Teabaggers in the party are driving him to smoke a pack a night.
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