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center rising Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 09:03 AM
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A Ron Paul/Jesse Ventura presidential ticket??
Jesse said in an interview he would consider being Ron Paul's running mate if Paul ran for president.
Wonder how many people would actually consider voting for them if they did run??


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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 09:05 AM
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1. Jesse Ventura is normally rather intelligent. What is going on with the world?
Talk about weird bedfellows.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 09:24 AM
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2. Ventura, when he first ran for the Minnesota Governor's office, ran on The Reform Party
ticket. It's the party the Perot created when he ran for president. After winning the governorship, Ventura quit the Reform Party, my guess is that it lacked any real organization, and just declared himself an independent.

Ventura has a pretty far right-wing view, probably more in line with Ron Paul's 2008 campaign rhetoric.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:05 AM
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7. Not from the interviews I've seen of him.
He's actually seemed rather Libertarian and very far from the right wing view point. He even calls himself a Barry Goldwater Republican. Possibly depending on the issue it shifts....but I haven't seen that.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:40 PM
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8. He's not right-wing at all
He's a left leaning libertarian, much like Ron Paul is a right leaning one. Jesse supports government healthcare, abortion right, gay marriage, and wants to scrap the electoral system.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:24 PM
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10. Really? Jesse Ventura on HCR
"I dont support nationalized health care. I think any time you get a system where theres only one provider, you get corruption. Competition creates better service and keeps prices down."

He also believes in the right to carry concealed weapons.

He's not for abortion, he's just for keeping it legal on Constitutional grounds.

He also supports doing away with income tax and replacing it with a national sales tax - which has never worked.

"Id like to see us do away with income tax entirely and go for a national sales tax. The government could collect the money it needs by placing a tax on the goods and services we buy. Then states could add their own taxes on top of that."

He's more right-wing than people like to believe.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 03:19 PM
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11. All libertarians support full gun rights, as do I
It's the other issues that make then left or right leaning. He was on The View today saying he disagrees with Ron Paul on abortion, and that he's pro-choice. He certainly is pro-choice. Now, I have never heard one person yet claim to oppose abortion, but say they can't because they think there's a constitutional right to an abortion. However, I have heard plenty say the opposite: That they think abortion should be legal, but there is no constitutional right to an abortion, and Roe vs. Wade was wrongly decided. I'm one of them.

Ron Paul supports repealing the income tax...and replacing it with nothing. Now that's right-wing. Jesse wanting to replace it with a NST, is, well, maybe right wing but certainly not AS right wing.

When did he say that about health care? In his "American Conspiracies" book he says he supports free healthcare.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 05:23 PM
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16. Here ya go:
"When did he say that about health care? In his "American Conspiracies" book he says he supports free healthcare"
Do I Stand Alone, by Jesse Ventura, p.138-9

"That they think abortion should be legal, but there is no constitutional right to an abortion, and Roe vs. Wade was wrongly decided."

Ventura: "Its not so much that I think abortion should be legal as it is that I dont think it can be made illegal without abusing the Constitution. Unless the government barged in at the precise moment the woman was there in the operating room with her feet in the stirrups, how would the government know she was getting an abortion? How could they even know she is pregnant without infringing upon her rights? Ultimately, I have to support keeping it legal."
Do I Stand Alone, by Jesse Ventura, p.150
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 05:33 PM
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17. He also wants to take money from the MIC
and invest it in solar power - I don't consider him a flake. I consider him honest and knows more about what he's talking about than those pundits (like George Stephanopolis) who interview him.

Having said that, we have seen how some candidates campaign on one platform and do the exact opposite when they get in the White House. Given the track record of some candidates, I would trust Ventura as much or even more (as former military and knowing his background) as I would trust those he would hypothetically run against, if he were to run. Because of Ventura's background, I believe that he would not be accused of being weak or afraid to kick ass.


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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 09:24 AM
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3. not for Ron Paul --no way: anti civil rights, anti safety net...
the list goes on.

he's not even a full Libertarian.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 09:42 AM
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4. Never
No one should support this unless they favor unrestrained capitalism of the type that would make Adam Smith shudder.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 09:46 AM
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5. More nutjobs running for office
Let's see the knock down, drag out between Venturi/Paul and Palin/Bachmann! There would be a fight for you!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:03 AM
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6. No way
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 10:05 AM by karynnj
Have you considered Ron Paul's economic positions. He would unravel the safety net as much as Paul Ryan would.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:21 PM
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9. hell no-
what a disaster!

:shrug:
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 03:23 PM
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12. I would love to vote for Jesse. Paul, not so much.
Ventura would need to be at the top of the ticket for me to even consider it.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 05:12 PM
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15. He's talking about government concentration camps
and is a big backer of that radio host woo-woo. He also is applying for Mexican citizenship. I'll pass.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 08:46 PM
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19. And you'd live to regret it
I know a lot of people in Minnesota who were really sorry they voted for him.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:39 PM
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21. If you lived in Minnesota you wouldn't.
He's a bunch of hot air wrapped in a package of ego. That's it.
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27inCali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 03:35 PM
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13. I don't know if I would vote for them, but.........
I think their presence in the race would help bring a lot of issues into focus that are usually ignored but that Progressives care about deeply.

If you read a lot of what Ron Paul has said recently re: how can you justify cutting education and programs for the poor when they are a fraction of the cost of these dumb wars? you realize how important this message is coming from the king of the Libertarians. I mean, even the Libertarians are coming out and saying the GOP wants to cut back social programs too much. This is a useful message.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 05:08 PM
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14. Ron Paul has a cult like following
If he ran Independent. He would pull a Nadar 2000 type pecentage
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 05:41 PM
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18. People who are recommending this must want to see old folks thrown off Social Security and Medicare
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 05:41 PM by CreekDog
i guess it's a good thing that recommendations are anonymous.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:38 PM
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20. B.A.R.F.
I suffered through four years of Ventura in Minnesota. He is NOT a good guy. He's a total narcissist and blowhard who has turned into a conspiracy nut.
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