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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:18 AM
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Inching away from the budget brink? (updated)
Edited on Thu Mar-31-11 08:26 AM by ProSense
INCHING AWAY FROM THE BUDGET BRINK?....

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Did Boehner's remarks signal heightened tensions and the increased likelihood of a government shutdown next week? Oddly enough, no. In fact, the opposite may be true. As Greg Sargent noted, Boehner's chest-thumping bravado may have been a "signal to conservatives that he's drawing a hard line in talks, partly because he knows that ultimately those talks will likely yield a deal that will be difficult to sell to them."

What kind of deal? This kind of deal.

After weeks of arguing, Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill began negotiations Wednesday on a possible budget agreement that would slash federal spending by as much as $33 billion and avert a government shutdown.

"We're all working off the same number now," Vice President Biden told reporters after meeting with Senate Democratic leaders at the Capitol on Wednesday evening. "Obviously, there's a difference in the composition of that number -- what's included, what's not included. It's going to be a thorough negotiation."

If approved, the deal would be the largest single-year budget cut in U.S. history.

At this point, there is no compromise plan and a deal has not been reached. What policymakers have reportedly agreed to is a target -- Republicans wanted $61 billion in cuts; Democrats wanted $10 billion; so they'll agree to $33 billion. That's roughly what House GOP leaders originally wanted when the process began, before rank-and-file Republicans defied their own party's leadership and demanded more.

The $33 billion in cuts would actually be $23 billion at this stage, since the last two temporary extensions already cut spending by about $10 billion. The challenge for policymakers at this point, then, is to identify the $23 billion that all parties can agree to.

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What’s John Boehner’s endgame?


Updated to add this from Brian Beutler at TPM: Cantor Gets Rogers'd

I was in Cantor's weekly briefing yesterday when he got dressed down by Politico's David Rogers. And yes, it was a sight to behold. But for self-interested reasons, this is being passed around by Democrats and, well, Politico, as evidence that David Rogers is more keyed into what's going on behind the scenes in the budget fight than Eric Cantor.

Color me skeptical there. John Boehner might not brief Cantor as thoroughly as Harry Reid briefs Chuck Schumer (I don't know) but what I took from that exchange was that Cantor hid the ball, so he could more credibly move the center of gravity of budget negotiations to the right. If you're the number two Republican in the House and you admit that the Speaker is planning to cut a deal with Democrats, you can't easily undercut him in public and move the goalposts in your direction. But you can pretend you're not privy to those discussions and then play bad cop, by pushing for a more conservative outcome.

With that in mind, I think a more realistic take is that Cantor sees a falling out brewing between Boehner and House conservatives, and wants them to have a place to rest their loyalties in the aftermath. Maybe he's doing that to undermine Boehner. Maybe he's doing it to preserve some semblance of rank-and-file loyalty to leadership. Maybe a bit of both. But he's not just twiddling his thumbs ignorantly while the principals do all the real work.

Full Cantor-Rogers exchange below the fold.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 11:49 AM
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1. Boehner To Tea Partiers: 'We Can't Impose Our Will' On Democrats

Boehner To Tea Partiers: 'We Can't Impose Our Will' On Democrats

Brian Beutler

At his weekly Capitol press conference Thursday, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) said he's still pushing to maximize spending cuts and limitations. But he hopes to reach agreement with Senate Democrats and the White House before funding runs out on April 8 and the government shuts down.

That isn't sitting well with conservative members and Tea Party activists. Now his message to them is mellowing a bit.

"We can't impose our will on another body," Boehner said. "We can't impose our will on the Senate. All we can do is to fight for all of the spending cuts that we can get an agreement to and the spending limitations as well."

That's not to say he's happy about having to cut a deal. Asked how willing he is to cut a middle path and pass a spending bill with a coalition of Democrats and Republicans, a resigned Boehner said simply, "not very interested."

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 11:56 AM
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2. Boehner resists budget deal as Tea Partier seeks his ouster

Boehner resists budget deal as Tea Partier seeks his ouster

Posted by Stephanie Condon

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Tea Party groups are ratcheting up their pressure on Boehner today with a rally outside of the Capitol, with House Tea Party Caucus leader Rep. Michele Bachmann planning to speak. If Boehner fails to cut enough from the budget, Mark Meckler of the Tea Party Patriots told the Associated Press, Tea Partiers could mount a primary challenge against the speaker.

Meckler said "you're going to see massive amounts" of primary challenges against Republican lawmakers, including Boehner, next year if Republicans go along with the plan to cut $33 billion.

Judson Phillips of Tea Party Nation already said in a message to his organization today that "Boehner must go."

"The Tea Party must unite and make sure Boehner is replaced in the next election," he wrote. "We need people in leadership who are committed to cutting spending and eliminating these programs."

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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 12:10 PM
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3. Where's the Democratic framing of the budget deficit issue????
Edited on Thu Mar-31-11 12:16 PM by polichick
On edit: Right now on Ed's show Sherrod Brown is saying that the prez needs to weigh in.

He says the whole Dem caucus wants the prez to weigh in and frame this issue differently.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 12:28 PM
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 02:26 PM
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5. "on Ed's show Sherrod Brown is saying that the prez needs to weigh in"
Sure he does, because members of Congress need the President to hold their hands every step of the way?

He has weighed in many times, and doesn't have a vote in Congress. They need to resolve the issue and vote. That's there job.

Biden is in charge of the negotiations and weighed in yesterday.



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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 03:04 PM
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6. WH acceptance (and repeating) of Republican framing is a big problem...
...for Congress and the American people.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 03:07 PM
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7. Frankly,
the bigger problem is media spin and the people who help to advance it.

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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 03:21 PM
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9. Frankly, it would help if the prez used the bully pulpit to advance Democratic ideas and solutions..
...instead of repeating Republican bullshit about "shared sacrifice."
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 03:21 PM
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8. An inch!
:woohoo:
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