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WolfoftheWild Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 03:48 PM
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between 2016 and 2020, Texas will turn Blue
Ethnic minorities accounted for 89 percent of the staggering growth in Texas over the past decade, according to figures released Thursday by the U.S. Census Bureau that support projections putting Hispanics on pace to soon outnumber whites in the nation's second-largest state.

http://www.seattlepi.com/national/1110ap_us_census_texa...


How will the GOP ever win another election without Texas???

;)


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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 03:49 PM
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1. They've been saying this for years and it never happens.
nt
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Very_Boring_Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:24 PM
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5. The Latino vote is growing exponentially in Texas
The GOP has been isolating that vote for short term gain, without looking at the long term repercussions. It will turn blue, because Latino's overwhelmingly vote D.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:28 PM
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6. That's true. However affluent Latino's are not known to be Dems...they vote Repub.
So being Latino is not an automatic drop in the bucket for Dems.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:43 PM
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7. got some numbers for us?
ethnic minorities across the board tend to heavily favor Democrats.
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WolfoftheWild Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:12 PM
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12. Young Latinos are more likely to be Democrats. They are the ones who will change things.
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Drahthaardogs Donating Member (482 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:20 PM
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16. Growing up in the Southwest
It seemed that those of Mexican descent were almost always Democrats. I think Cubans tend to vote Republican.
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 07:47 PM
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23. My boss is a repub from ca
And she was whining the other day about southern cal only being dem because of the Mexicans.

I think that is why they fight so hard not to give citizenship to them.

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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:13 PM
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44. I perfer to narrow that down to Miami Cubans.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:56 PM
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9. Beat me to it. I first heard this meme after the 1980 census, when Reagan won in a sweep. Ditto 1990
when all I heard was how Texas would never go Republican again; that 1992 was the last gasp for the GOP at the presidential level in the Lone Star state.

After the 2000 census came out, I read an article in a major national newspaper that said it was unlikely that George W. Bush would even carry his home state for re-election 2004 because....you guessed it: "Demographics make it impossible."

I'll believe it when I see it.
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WolfoftheWild Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:11 PM
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10. things have changed in the last 20 years. didn't you notice?
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:35 PM
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14. Read reply #9 in this thread again. Slower, this time, please. n/t
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:52 PM
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17. Look how long it took California to turn officially blue...
Edited on Fri Feb-18-11 06:56 PM by Drunken Irishman
It wasn't until the 1992 presidential election and now, it's unlikely that state swings back to the Republicans, at the presidential level at least, for a long, long time.

California had voted Republican in '88, '84, '80, '76, '72, '68, '60, '56 and '52. Throughout that stretch, it only went Democratic once: 1964 - in Johnson's landslide.

It takes time, but I think with the population shifts, you're going to see Texas turn more and more blue, especially at the presidential level.

Obama did better in Texas than both Kerry and Gore. He garnered the same amount of support as Clinton (44%) did in '96.

It might not happen in 2012, but it could start happening in 2016.
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Ramulux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 07:07 PM
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39. Yes it has, its called California
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 03:53 PM
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2. Getting out the vote will be crucial. The DNC should start
building a strong infrastructure NOW.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:04 PM
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3. +1
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:11 PM
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4. That would be a very good idea.
:thumbsup:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 08:08 PM
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24. What else will be crucial: NEVER taking that voting bloc for granted.
NEVER assume we have a lock on it from here on out.

The bad guys can peel Hispanics away from us on some economic issues (the richer ones who start hanging out with other republi-CONS) and religious issues.

CONSTANT VIGILANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One canNOT take that too seriously!!!! Remember how ruthless and vicious and amoral our opponents are.
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sadbear Donating Member (799 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:46 PM
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8. I'm sure the Texas Legislature will pass it's own version of SB 1070
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WolfoftheWild Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:12 PM
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11. it's much too late for that. the next generation is already born. they just can't vote yet.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 01:54 AM
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26. That would be a collosal mistake
And one I seriously doubt would ever happen. Texas is officially a majority/minority state.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:33 PM
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13. It is only a matter of time
If Hispanics voted in Texas in the same percentages as Hispanics in California, then Texas would be a swing state. We need to register Hispanics and get these voters to the polls.

Hopefully, the repugs in the Texas legis will overplay their hands and help. The voter ID and sanctuary city bills are designed to offend Hispanics.
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great white snark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 06:12 PM
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15. I wish Ann Richards was still around to see that day.
I'm sure she'd want our party not to take any votes for granted, including Latinos. We must earn their vote. Sonia Sotomayor is a good start.
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BobTheSubgenius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 07:30 PM
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20. Absolutely!
Likewise, Molly Ivins.
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mikekohr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 06:18 AM
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27. I miss Molly nt
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 07:12 PM
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18. It's Going To Happen, Without A Doubt.

I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince all the DU Texas Haters of this, that's futile......
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 07:20 PM
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19. I've been in Texas for 8 months now.
I don't see it happening. I wish I did, but I just can't see it. I've never seen so many tea party stickers in my life.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 07:36 PM
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21. Whereabouts in Texas do you live?
Here in Dallas County, we've got a good strong Democratic base - as long as John Wiley Price doesn't screw it up for everyone.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 07:13 PM
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40. I'm in San Angelo.
:hi:
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WolfoftheWild Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 09:01 PM
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25. Think about all the old Teabaggers that will die as young Hispanics come of age in the next decade
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 07:42 PM
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22. They will steal it like they did in 2000.
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Sienna86 Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 07:03 AM
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28. Could that be affecting their actions now?
I saw the demographic changes on the news the other day and got the strongest feeling that it has something to do with their current plans, including the Supreme Court and Citizens United.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 07:38 AM
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29. Also, I've noticed a lot of northerners
relocating to Texas the past ten years. I've been surprised at how many people I know who moved to Texas. There was a time when Texas would have been the last place a Northerner would consider relocating to. Also many large companies have moved to Texas.
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 09:54 AM
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30. Northerners Have Been Moving To Texas In Droves, For Decades.

Back in the 80's, the streets of Houston were filled with cars bearing Michigan and Wisconsin license plates. Hell, some of the irate Texas natives came up with a bumper sticker that was popular back then: "We Don't CARE How You Did It Up North!" Simple economic realities: Texas was (and is) a place where jobs are available.

I've always welcomed the influx of Yankees into Texas---between them and the ever-growing Hispanic influence, things are going to change for the better in the state. And just to remind the usual bunch of DU Texas-haters: Houston, the nation's fourth-largest city, elected itself an openly lesbian mayor not too long ago. Believe it or not, Austin isn't the only tolerable place in the state. If you're a newcomer to Texas and a Democrat, quit griping about how things are and do something about changing things for the better......



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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 06:04 PM
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37. Well, that is really good to hear
I lived in Texas for a year, but it was back in the 70's. Yankees were few and far between in those days. Though I was glad to leave, I did meet some really nice people. Of course, I was careful not to discuss politics or religion for the most part, but occasionally I just couldn't help myself.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 10:47 AM
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31. It's also going to make presidential campaigns even more expensive than they are now
Texas is an incredibly expensive state to campaign in.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 11:14 AM
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32. Many big cities are already blue: Houston, Dallas, Austin, El Paso.
It's only a matter of time.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 11:38 AM
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34. More like between 2016 and 2020, Texas will secede
n/t
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WolfoftheWild Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 12:17 PM
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35. I understand your disbelief, but you'll be surprised at how quickly this occurs.
Edited on Sat Feb-19-11 12:17 PM by WolfoftheWild
Old Teabaggers are dying,
and those coming of age in large numbers are most certainly not Teabaggers.
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 02:42 PM
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36. That depends on how committed hispanics are to the democratic party. From what I can tell they're
swing voters and uncommitted to either side.
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WolfoftheWild Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 06:42 PM
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38. give the Repugs a few more years to display their hatred of immigrants.
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 07:54 PM
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41. If they put Rubio on the ticket we are
screwed for 8-16 years before Texas can turn blue.
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WolfoftheWild Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 08:01 PM
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42. You underestimate Latinos. Rubio is like their Michael Steele.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 10:14 PM
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43. Won't happen, now that Repubs won big in Nov '10. Redistricting time.
The Republicans control the state legislative body, and it's redistricting time. They will simply redraw the lines to carve out enough Republican districts to win. That's what they did the last time (it wasn't even redistricting time!), and it worked.

Southeast Texas (the infamous home of the KKK in Texas) will be dark red for the foreseeable future.

The main counties in Dallas, Houston, and Austin will be Democratic...just as they are right now.

Also, many of the new hispanics will be illegal, who of course can't vote. Others who can tend to move to the metro areas, which are already Democratic. Once a district is blue, it doesn't matter if more Blue members move in.

There is only one hope for TX in the near future, IMO: Independents. But in order to win Texas Independents over, you'd have to come up with a big talkin', confident, forceful, charismatic Blue Dog or moderate Democrat. It's been a long time since I've seen one of those run for a major office in TX. (He or she would also have to know how to ride a horse and shoot a gun. Seriously.)
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Keith Bee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:46 PM
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45. I hope you're right
But I'm not holding my breath, since I would turn blue!
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 02:29 PM
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46. You can't assume Latinos will vote Dem.
They are often very socially conservative, and care little for the immigration issue.
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