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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:21 PM Original message |
Obama declares intentions on Social Security; we must prepare |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. Obama will not cut SS. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. HE ALREADY FUCKING HAS!!! |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:00 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. That doesn't say he "cut it" |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 01:25 AM Response to Reply #28 |
43. Jeezus. That's not cutting, |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #28 |
60. That doesn't translate to "Obama cut Social Security", Sparky. |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #28 |
63. simmer down, shouty. |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 07:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
66. Look up "cost of living" before you look any dumber. |
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DebJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. Or it simply means raise the damn cap already. nt |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
69. +1 n/t |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. WTF? Do we get your translation if we hear Obama say that part of his speech backwards?! |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. So what other outcome fits those words? |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Making SS work positively and sustainbly. Without cutting benefits or privatizing. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Obama could have said "without cutting benefits" |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. "slashing benefits for future generations" |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. I figured he was addressing the Republicans in the audience who keep suggesting it. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. He could have just said "without cutting benefits" |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Uh...you're sounding like those people who heard satanic message in Stairway to Heaven. n/t |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Anyone wanna bet me $20 that Obama will cut it? |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:54 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Why would you need to make a bet if you have evidence that it WILL happen? |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:59 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Talk is cheap. Will you put your money where your mouth is? |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:02 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. So you don't have evidence? It's just an unknown speculation? |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:04 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I have lots of evidence |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:05 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. You have evidence that in fact he will cut it? |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:07 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Start with Bowles and Simpson |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:11 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Is it not linkable in this thread? |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:33 AM Response to Reply #23 |
41. "There's no accidents in Obama's speeches" |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 07:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
65. "but he should have said without snipping benefits" |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. It's not, somehow "without slashing" has now became WILL cut |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Please be specific. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:43 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. No...why wouldn't he us it when this is what is in the news and blogsphere noise for 4 weeks. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. No grass growing under your feet, Manny. |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. What translation generator did you run that through? |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. So how did you read it? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
25. He used clear English. No translator was needed. n/t |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 07:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
67. Bourbon and Vicodin. |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
6. Your errr umm translation needs ALOT of work |
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Skink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
9. They have to raise the cap. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Actually, fewer workers was planned for in 1983 |
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Skink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. I agree with that but did they plan for massive outsourcing of good paying jobs. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Sort of |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
14. It's hard to read between the lines.... Mainstreet faces challenges..... |
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namahage (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
18. "We must prepare. We must fight." |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 09:53 AM Response to Reply #18 |
53. I wish the DUZY's were still around for posts like this... |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
20. Never stopped preparing. Never stopped fighting. Rec'd n/t |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 11:40 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Thanks! We need to fight back. |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
36. Prepare for WHAT? |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
37. I never would have thought...when I heard Obama Speak...that |
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peopleb4money (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
39. Bipartisan solutions are always oddly stilted toward the Republican agenda. |
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peopleb4money (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
40. I think he may have just telling Republicans to work together with them |
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thelordofhell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
42. Jesus, what tinfoilhat decoder wheel are you using? |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 01:31 AM Response to Original message |
44. I took his speech to mean that (1) SS taxes will increase, and (2) retirement age will increase. |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 04:45 AM Response to Original message |
45. Glad others caught the "not SLASHING" remark, O'Donnell |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 07:26 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. +1 nt |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 07:44 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I guess that O'Donnell and I are both crazy far-left haters |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #45 |
58. What the hell? Seriously? You really believe |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 06:28 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Yes, I do ..."Words Do Matter" |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
48. The former predictions that he would ANNOUNCE CUTs now turn into coded messages. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:27 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Find that prediction and win $5 |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Here's one ... |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 02:07 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Kuttner should have known better |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 02:15 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Pick one for abused kids. As for Obama's intentions regadring SS ... |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #48 |
59. Gotta keep the angry furnaces burning, ya know. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
50. Your translationomometer is broken...nt |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
51. Hopefully we still have a reporter who will ask if not slashing means not cutting or trimming, etc. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
52. I tend to agree with Josh Marshall here. Obama's line on Social Security was 'somewhat ambiguous.' |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
57. What the fuck is this? |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
62. lolz |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
64. bless your little heart for trying so hard. god bless. |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
68. I hope you are wrong, but I fear you are right |
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WiffenPoof (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
70. Can I Just Ask A Simple Question? |
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