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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 08:39 PM
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Little evidence of Democratic unrest

Little evidence of Democratic unrest

Our new poll suggests that liberal unhappiness with Barack Obama is still largely anecdotal and not very widespread. His approval rating with liberal Democrats is 95%, with only 3% disapproving of him.

On health care 88% of voters in that group say they're with Obama and only 7% are opposed. We simply are not seeing any broad evidence of push back toward him from the left for not advocating for single payer.

There is a little more unrest with him on Afghanistan. 68% of liberal Democrats support his approach there with 22% opposed. Even with those who disagree with him on the issue 81% express approval of his overall job performance so it doesn't seem to be a deal breaker by any means.

Certainly media outlets can go out and find some individuals on the left disenchanted with Obama if they want to push a Democratic disunity narrative but it's hard to make much more than an anecdotal case on that front. For the most part liberal Democrats are pretty content with Obama.


Gallup also shows this to be the case:



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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 08:44 PM
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1. Why should there be? He's been the most progressive President since LBJ.
I'm prouder of my vote back in November every passing day.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 08:47 PM
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2. Yep, me too.
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mcablue Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 08:55 PM
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4. Do you know Bill Clinton's approval among Democrats at the end of his terms?
I have no idea. I assume that as a centrist DLC'er he must have had a dismal approval among Democrats. Someone please dig that up.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 09:05 PM
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5. I believe he could have won another term, if allowed, regardless of his lil' peccadillos
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:56 AM
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39. 91 percent in December 1996 and 92 percent in December 2000
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 09:17 PM
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6. Me too.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 09:45 PM
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8. +10,000. Couldn't have stated it better. (nt)
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 02:00 AM
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22. +10...I am so happy Barack Obama is my president! n/t
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:26 AM
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28. Me too. In fact, I am still kind of celebrating!
It is amazing this country elected a biracial man with a "scary" name and big ears! Yes, he is progressive.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 08:51 PM
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3. I have to think this was the situation and was to be expected
the man is doing a great job under the most trying of circumstances.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 07:20 AM
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24. Couldn't have said it better.
:thumbsup: KnR
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Undercurrent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 09:24 PM
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7. I'm very pleased with our President.
He has not disappointed me.

In my 60 years Obama is more true to the person he told us he was during the campaign than most other Presidents. I'd have the right to be disappointed if I'd voted for someone who turned out to be faking it during the campaign. Obama was not faking it.

Has he been able to do all he had hoped to do, as fast as he wanted? No. But I trust him to do all that is humanly possible to complete his goals. The obstacles -- and they are legion -- will prevent it, but he will try.

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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 09:52 PM
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9. The "liberal" blogosphere, with the help of the teabaggers, is......
doing everything in it's power to change this. I'm quickly coming to the realization that I may not be as "progressive" as I had previously thought. I'm not sure if it's the contempt I held for the Bush administration, or the fact that I admire this president so much for his pragmatic approach to the issues, but I'm definitely not a progressive by internet standards.

Contrary to the daily screeching on the internet, and dire warnings from the liberal left, it seems that people have just tuned them out? I know I have.
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:31 AM
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32. +10000
Sometimes I read these posts and go, "OMG, is this the way I acted towards Bush? I have to apologize" :rofl: (that doesn't mean I became a Bush fan by any means, but...you get my drift lol)
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 12:25 PM
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41. It's like an echo chamber.
Hard to hear yourself think. x(

And I'd throw some disenchanted PUMAs in that mix, too.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 09:55 PM
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10. I guess this is proof enough to tell me that a lot of Dems don't really post on DU. n/t
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im1013 Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 10:21 PM
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14. That's exactly what I was thinking!!

:wtf:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 09:59 PM
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11. Yes. And recommended.
:thumbsup: :hi:
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 10:14 PM
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12. The poll is from BEFORE he announced his "surge" in Afghanistan - his approval is down with every
group listed regardless of that fact. The bullshit "health care reform" is total crap compared with the single-payer option - one which Obama never stood up for. And I know he lost a LOT of people with his HORRIBLE Afghanistan "surge" which was announced after this poll was conducted. But whatever, I am very disappointed in Obama to the point where he no longer has my vote in 2012. He may eventually get it, but he doesn't have it now. If only 22% of liberal Dems are opposed to escalating the war in Afghanistan then we are more fucked then I thought. Perhaps the brainwashing of Americans into accepting a permanent state of war has truly been accomplished. :( :shrug:
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 10:21 PM
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13. It's the independents that people need to worry about - not republicans
or democrats.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 10:22 PM
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15. You mean a for hire polling outfit gets the results theyre paid to get?
Color me shocked.

:sarcasm:

Some other incisive polls from "Public Policy Polling":

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/12/gop-candidates-sport-best-performance.html">GOP candidates sport best performance yet

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/12/limited-support-for-sanford-impeachment.html">Limited Support for Sanford Impeachment

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/12/castle-still-up-on-biden.html">Castle still up on Biden

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/12/shifts-in-palins-numbers.html">Shifts in Palin's numbers (look out! Sarah's gaining ground!)

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/12/reagan-tops-bush-worst-among-recent.html">Reagan tops, Bush worst among recent Presidents (Obama is next to last)


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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 10:31 PM
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16. You are trying to discredit PPP, what about Gallup? Here's another,
from Daily Kos:






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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 11:34 PM
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17. Gallup polls have been right-wing slanted for decades. Not credible.
ABC News and CBS News polls are more credible, and Zogby is occasionally credible.
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 11:47 PM
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19. CBS Poll show similar results
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 07:47 AM
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25. delete, wrong place
Edited on Sun Dec-13-09 07:48 AM by polichick
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 11:43 PM
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18. i think we all know the vocal downers here are really just trolls
or paid disruptors. they are just wasting their time.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 12:35 AM
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20. Suck on that, leftbaggers.
Clearly, in term of streams, and the main-ness of such, we're this:


and you're that:



:shrug:
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 12:45 AM
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21. Hehe... I think I'm coming to like the term "leftbagger"...
Makes me feel like a teabagger with the coordination to hit someone in the face with my left testicle, while only teasing them with the possibilities of my right...

It's all about "scrotum control"... :)
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:21 AM
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36. Enjoy your epic losses in 2010
Edited on Mon Dec-14-09 07:21 AM by depakid
Because that's where you're headed- and that's what you'll deserve with that attitude.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 05:03 AM
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23. Remember, the posters here are well in the minority of Democrats,
and the real anti-Obama people are a minority of posters here.


mark
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mcablue Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 08:35 AM
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26. "the posters here" are anti-Obama?
Exaggeration isn't good. How about "some posters" are anti-Obama and some posters disagree with some of his policies?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:19 AM
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27. I thought it was the "likely voter" numbers that were a concern, not approval. nt
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:26 AM
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29. Exactly. The so called "enthusiasm gap"
It isn't all about Obama all the time. It's also about levels of enthusiasm for participating in the electoral process, and levels of enthusiam for supporting Democratics in general. Something that doesn't show on these surveys is willingness to donate time and/or money to Democrats running for office. There is more to politics than voting.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:29 AM
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31. The enthusiam gap is being referenced to make projections about 2010
and even for that election cycle its too early.

Obama's job approval has nothing to do with likely voters.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 11:26 AM
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30. Likely voters for 2012?
Edited on Sun Dec-13-09 11:29 AM by ProSense
Ridiculous.

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 12:18 PM
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33. 2010.
Which would have consequences for 2012, obviously.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 12:28 PM
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34. No more than 1994 had on 1996. Congress is up for election in 2010.
Edited on Sun Dec-13-09 12:29 PM by ProSense
The problem with all the predictions is that some people seem to have concluded that Democrats will lose seats because of Obama. The more likely reason (in addition to the historical trend) that Democrats (like Blanche Lincoln) may lose seats is failure to work with the President and party.

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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 02:52 AM
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35. kick
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:32 AM
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37. except here.
things are as expected
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 07:54 AM
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38. Perception fades when reality bites. We'll see how it goes
from now until November. Remember, in 2010, Obama isn't on a ballot.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:40 AM
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40. Where are all the usual suspects who accuse Gallup of being a right-wing organization?
:shrug:
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watercolors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 05:30 PM
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42. only unrest with Democrats is here in DU!
I have to get my class of wine to fortify myself before I come here anymore! Its cruel!
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