WTF is Jon Stewart talking about

[dennis4868]

First he says Bush is NOT a war criminal. And then he says that FOX News is NOT partisan. WTF? He says that FOX has an ideology but is not partisan. He could not be more wrong. If they had an ideology they would have relentlessly bashed Bush for running up the deficit and not paying for program but that never happened. They only defended Bush for 8 years. If the repubs all of a sudden were for tax increases then Fox News would support. He even said that Fox would support a dem....WTF?

What has happened to Jon Stewart?

[grasswire]

1. he said that technically Bush is a war criminal

But that he might not be evil.

And he said that FOX might support a Dem like Lieberman.

[dennis4868]

2. Did Lieberman leave....

The Independent party....we all know that holy Joe leans right on many issues and that is why Fox gives him air time.

[dennis4868]

3. And then he defends Bush....

On his WMD claim and he made no sense in his defense.

[molly77]

8. They got to him.

[DJ13]

4. Stewart might be facing pressure from Viacom to be less partisan?

:shrug:

[kysrsoze]

5. He's turned to a total puss. Last person I heard like this was Nader

He's perfectly equating anyone on the left with anyone on the right. After using right-wing stupidity as a meal ticket for years, now he wants to act like he's above the fray and so much more pious than any progressive/left-wing commentator.

Stewart is a fucking sellout and I seriously am done with him after crowing about truth in media and REAL reporting, while simultaneously equating those on the left who tell the truth to those on the right. There is a huge difference, Jon Nader.

[jobycom]

6. I didn't hear him, but I agree with him about FOX.

They oppose Republicans and have been critical of them from time to time. They have an agenda, and they back a basically conservative ideology, and they will support people who agree with their agenda in general even when they wander from it a little. So, if Bush is being a little less neocon than they want they might still go along with him, knowing in general he supports what they do. Some of us do that with Democratic officials, even Obama. Some of us defend Obama from right-wing attacks even when we are angry at him for not being liberal enough, for instance. If that's what Jon is saying, i agree with him. And IIRC, FOX has supported people like Gene Taylor or Heath Schuler--Democrats--when they've gone against their party, or even expressed hesitancy over an issue FOX opposes. And they did bash deficit spending under Bush, while giving Bush a pass on it, arguing, i think, that Bush was spending money that had to be spent, and blaming the deficit on Democrats and general social programs.

It's pretty faint praise, if one calls it praise at all, and I didn't see the Stewart comments, so I can't swear I'd agree with his larger context. I'm just commenting on what you said he said.

Bush isn't a war criminal, because he hasn't been charged or convicted, but he should be. I don't know the context of Stewart's comments there, either.

[JoePhilly]

7. I watched it ... it was very odd.

I got the sense some one shot him with a tranquilizer dart.

There was no edge to anything he said. No hard lines.

They said he'd been sick. Maybe he was hallucinating. But he wasn't making much sense.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

9. For some reason, I can easily see Jon Stewart selling out and becoming another Dennis Miller! n/t

[Phoonzang]

11. I've had that thought too.

There's just something...similar about them.

[JVS]

10. FOX News is NOT partisan?

:rofl:

[Nancy Waterman]

12. Of course FOX is partisan

they attack Obama for EVERYTHING, even policies they agreed with a week earlier.
Stewart was essentially incoherent last night. It was painful to listen to and difficult to follow.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

13. Faux gave a million dollar plus to the Republican Governors Association, and Republicans

openly campaigned on Faux, especially those widely believed to be presidential contenders in 2012.

Faux is not only ideological, they ARE most definitely partisan!! Since conservatism is synonymous with the Republican Party these days, I would assert that Faux is BOTH!

Jon is only pretending to be willfully ignorant. He knows better! He's sounding more and more like Dennis Miller!

[ampad]

14. Was he drunk?

I stopped watching him when he started those rallies. I'm sorry but I did not see the point. You hold a rally then when it comes to the topic of voting you become vague? Yea that ship sailed a long time ago.

Quite a few of them have gotten weird after the 08 election. I think that he is suffering from Bush withdrawal.

[Phx_Dem]

15. He made a lot of sense. It was a very interesting discussion.

[Colobo]

16. Jon is trying his best to stand in a false "middle ground".

[ZombieHorde]

18. No, he is not trying to find the middle ground, he is trying point out the way we use language. nt

[JVS]

21. By doing what? Lying so that reality seems like a civil discourse.

[ZombieHorde]

25. What did he lie about? nt

[ZombieHorde]

17. He said Bush as a war criminal, but the term was a conversation stopper.

He said Fox would support a Dem if the Dem fit their narrative.

Many of the things he was saying was about classical debate.

[JVS]

22. Durned reality, getting in the way of conversations.

[and-justice-for-all]

19. Really, what the fuck?! nt

[Aramchek]

20. John just doesn't have the balls to take a real stand. So he plays the middle.

Which is hilarious because those who defend him around here pretend like they're the leftest of the left.

[sally cat]

23. And all the while insisting that people shouldn't listen to him on these weighty matters.

[wowimthere]

24. agree totally