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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 09:49 PM
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Obama's right - we must go slow on repealing DADT
We don't want a repeat of what happened when Truman desegregated the Army overnight. Remember how that went?
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 09:56 PM
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1. Truman by no means desegregated the Army "overnight"
and, in any case, the situation was different because there was no Congressional statute.

There is plenty of room to complain about Obama's record on DADT without drawing poor analogies.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 10:02 PM
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2. No, it's exactly the same. There's not a whit of difference.
Manny said so.

It has to be true.

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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 10:05 PM
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3. Yes, I do...
Edited on Tue Sep-28-10 10:07 PM by Ozymanithrax
Harry Truman did it with executive order (http://www.majorcox.com/columns/truman.htm) because legislation was stonewalled by Southern Democrats.
Even once he signed it, the Army drug their feet until 1951, with the Korean war, when so many soliders died they had not choice but to integrate the units. Supposedly, integration was complete in 1953. But problems continued, through 1972 when Race riots in the Navy (http://www.history.navy.mil/library/special/racial_incidents.htm) led to congressional investigation and real integration of the Armed forces.

So, integration of the U.S. Military really took 25 years after Truman's exectuive order. We can only hope that getting rid of DADT won't take a full 25 years to implement.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 10:09 PM
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4. Don't be absurd.
The OP has drawn the only valid comparison between the two things. Please don't ruin this with facts. Facts are nasty.

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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 10:11 PM
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5. Well, then I might as well say Facts are stupid things...
and let it end there.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 10:14 PM
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6. Not just stupid.
They're bad awful and they get in the way of being able to posture on the intertubes and people hate not being able to posture on the intertubes because then they might not be able to suppress voter turnout for Democrats this November.

And that would be bad awful.

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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 10:49 PM
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7. Sad to see this issue become a plaything.

And to see Truman's role diminished.

Have fun, folks. I'm going to bed, shaking my head. :banghead:
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