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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 10:09 PM
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Effective income tax for a single person with $40,000 gross income.
Edited on Tue Sep-14-10 10:11 PM by LiberalFighter
This is for the 2009 tax year. (edited)

$5,700 standard deduction
$3,650 personal exemption
- - - - - - - - - - - - -
$40,000
$ 9,350
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$30,650 taxable income

($ 835) The first $8,350 is taxed at 10%
($3,345) The remainder of $22,300 is taxed at 15%

($4,180) Total income tax

10.45% Effective tax rate. The taxpayer is not taxed at 15% of all income or all taxable income.


Notice how the income is also taxed at two different rates?

A taxpayer with about 6 years or more on a 30 year mortgage will likely itemize their deductions resulting in more than $5,700 standard deduction.

A married couple with or without kids or a single person with kids will have more exemptions to claim.

Taxpayers with income over $200k likely have deductions in the $64k range.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 11:36 PM
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1. Ok, your math is correct
Now what was your point?
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 11:51 PM
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2. How many do you think know how their income is taxed?
Not many. Even here not many.

And supporters of having the top 2 tax brackets kept as they are too because they won't benefit. But that is a lie. Those above $250k will have income that those below $250k taxed at the same rate.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 11:56 PM
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3. Ok, good point
But lost on me, because I used to be enrolled to practice before the IRS. While I haven't kept up on my training since about 1990, I still know how taxes work.

But your point on others not knowing about how tax laws work is well taken. It just didn't seem to be stated in your OP.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 12:21 PM
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4. Thanks for doing the math
Another poster was arguing she was paying $800 a month on a $40,000 salary and it didn't seem to add up to me.
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Tyrone Slothrop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 12:29 PM
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5. They were probably including state & local taxes as well as FICA n/t
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 12:55 PM
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7. $800 is a reasonable approximation
for a single person making $40k - if you include Social Security plus state and local taxes.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 12:51 PM
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6. This individual pays no SS taxes?
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 12:52 PM by FBaggins
And has no health insurance or 401(k)?

Or state/local/pers prop taxes?
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 02:11 PM
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8. He never said total deductions
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 02:12 PM by prolesunited
He said INCOME tax and clearly referred to federal tables, although those are dependent on filing status, so perhaps he could be clearer on that point.

Including any other taxes is not very useful because that is going to vary widely depending on where a person is located. Some states have no taxes and other states have high taxes. And just like you can control your personal property taxes by what you elect to purchase, you can control state and local tax payments by where you opt to live.

It seems like you are trying to throw in a bunch of other things to purposefully cloud the issue.

And putting in things like health insurance and 401(k) plans is just ludicrous. Payment of either is NOT mandatory and the person paying those optional expenses derives a clear benefit.

On edit: You obviously saw what a weak case you were making and changed your post.

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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 02:23 PM
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9. I think you missed my point.
Edited on Wed Sep-15-10 02:25 PM by FBaggins
Those are all deductions from gross income to get to taxable income.

IOW, the $40k gross income individual would pay much less in federal income tax than the OP calculated. Since (from other posts) it appears that the calculation was the point of the exercise... it seemed useful to flesh out the example.


On edit -

On edit: You obviously saw what a weak case you were making and changed your post.
The post was edited to include an additional category (that most pay) that reduces taxable income. The edit took place mere seconds from when I made the original post (and over an hour before you replied)... so what do you think I was hiding?
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 04:58 PM
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10. You forgot FICA. It's 18.1%. nt
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-15-10 11:26 PM
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11. You forgot Social Security taxes
which way ups that rate. The rate goes from the 10.45 to 18 with a marginal of over 20. that is why I get so irate over the low capital gains rate. I actually pay a higher marginal rate than a trust fund baby.
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-10 12:21 AM
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12. On top of the 15.3% SE tax
If you're self employed.
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