Robert Gibbs says that the vast majority of progressives & the left are pushing for a better country

[phleshdef]

"There are a small number of people on cable and elsewhere who will never be happy, who will never give the President credit for anything, and who will always look for some cardinal sin to be upset about," the press secretary said in an email to the Huffington Post.

...

"I also stand by my statement... that the vast majority of progressives and those on the left, whether that's bloggers or groups or what have you, do not hold those beliefs and are pushing in good faith for a better country as they see it," Gibbs added. "The President has urged those who want change to push for it and hold him accountable, and that's how he feels."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/13/gibbs-obama-still-wants-t_n_681691.html

[David Zephyr]

1. What an asshole this pompous jerk is. STFU, Gibbs.

What is this now? He sits in judging progressives as which ones are good and which are bad?

This guy is going to kill Democrats in November with his mouth alone.

He really needs to be fired. This weekend.

[phleshdef]

3. LOL. Are you being serious?

[johnaries]

Sorry to disagree with you, but he's absolutely right. nt

[Name removed]

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[ProSense]

2. Good statement. n/t

[Forkboy]

4. LOL...the first two replies to this sum DU up perfectly!

:rofl:

[dave29]

9. I just posted the same thing lol

:)

[bigwillq]

11. That's what makes DU great!1

:bounce: :P :hi:

[awoke_in_2003]

54. NO THEY DONT...

:rofl:

[dionysus]

68. thats the whole thread condensed into two posts!

:rofl:

[vi5]

5. Yes, he wants the left to keep pressuring Obama....

....because when he ignores them it shores up his conservative credentials.

[kath]

18. ding ding ding ding!! A WINNAH, folks, a winnah!!

[Duke Newcombe]

29. Se habla, "triangulation"? n/t

You are correct.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

6. Dude, the damage is done!

It's time to step away from the microphone and zip it up. Really. You're not helping.

[phleshdef]

10. The White House Press Secretary won't be stepping away from any microphones.

[Phx_Dem]

32. What damage? A few pissed of whiners.

That's not damage because sitting on the sidelines bitching all day doesn't help anything anyaway.

[dave29]

7. I love the first two responses in this thread. It's like watching an old re-run of crossfire

:hi:

[jefferson_dem]

22. Or this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMlv3ripSM

Some folks.

[dave29]

38. "I could be arguing in my spare time"

classic :) thanks for the memories.

Unfortunately, everyone around here expects...

[Whisp]

8. what is unreasonable about this?

oiy. people are nuts.

[phleshdef]

12. Its unreasonable because it casts doubt on the inner desire some have that Gibbs was trashing them.

[CakeGrrl]

13. Uh-huh

The guy can't even CLARIFY his point because people have their fingers in their ears and won't take 'em out for anything.

[Pirate Smile]

14. Maybe they have already decided he personally insulted them and are unwilling to recognize that

he wasn't talking about them.

Why people prefer to think he was trashing them is beyond me.

The polling the WH sees shows around 80%+ approval by Liberals, Progressives and Dems. Yet MSNBC has a bunch of doom and gloom, not good enough, even a win is a loss reports on beginning with Ed, well beginning with Ratigan who will complain and bitch about absolutely everything, nothing is ever good enough. I don't think they think that is an accurate reflection of how most Democrats feel. He said he watches too much cable and we know that the channel on in the WH is MSNBC.

[Whisp]

17. I guess if you have so much bile invested it is difficult to step back

and rethink and come to a different understanding. Maybe it feels more like failure than learning?

I suppose thats' what makes us humans so bloody dangerous. We won't stop even if we know we are wrong. That enormous ego thing, the destroyer of all that is possible.

[damntexdem]

15. True, but I will not say the same for Gibbs.

Fire the jerk!

[golddigger]

16. This administration really is clueless.

[phleshdef]

19. Really? So you think progressives and the left are NOT pushing for a better country then?

[golddigger]

21. Do not put words into my mouth.The damage is done. He needs to STFU about it

and quit while he is behind.

[phleshdef]

24. Then don't respond to those same words as saying the people saying them are acting clueless.

Because when you do that and it gets interpretated that way, its your own god damn fault.

He doesn't need to shut the fuck up. He is the WH press secretary. Its his job to do the opposite. And if he wants to clarify what he meant, thats his perogative and there isn't one god damn thing you can do about it. He will talk about it as much as he pleases and you will live with it.

I know its painful for you because you don't want him even daring to clarify that his statements were not a broad brush generalization of all liberals (as many of us said to begin with) because that takes away steam from your precious, shiny little pathetic talking point.

[PassingFair]

42. Who made YOU the house Mama?

Gibbs has exaggerated and encouraged divisions
within the party, just 3 months from the midterm
elections.

I'd fire his ass.

I'll stick with Alan Grayson on this one.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x494037

[phleshdef]

43. People should never be fired for expressing their own opinion when asked for it...

...if it doesn't block their ability to do their job. His job is to relay answers to questions coming from the WHPC. Nothing he said stands in the way of his ability to do that.

[PassingFair]

44. He's the WHITE HOUSE SPOKESPERSON for Pete's sake!

His job is DEFINED as presenting a the position of the Administration.

Again, I agree with Alan Grayson on this.

[Whisp]

26. what damage and to whom?

I'm pretty sure we schmucks are all safe here.

[phleshdef]

37. The damage was done to the fragile feelings of those that can't take half the vitriol they dish out.

[flyarm]

46. how do you possibly think you can know how I feel? Are you ME now?

are you so into group think, that YOU THINK you know how I feel ? That children I have worked with throughout my life , who know I am a liberal and they hear on TV that the Spokesperson for this White House has called me a druggie???????????

I have a grand child, do you Know how I feel about this, and about being called a druggie??????????

Go back to your own group of group thinkers, and do not think.. in your group think mind ...that you could ever know who or what I think!

You do not know anything about me and I would venture to say you most likely know very little about anyone who posts here. So to assume you know what any of us think , is absurd in it's face!

You do not know what I have done for the Dem party

You do not know what kind of work I have done for the dem party

I have stated I am a 40 year card carrying Registered LIBERAL Democrat

You do not know how many years and days and hours I have worked for the democratic party

You do not know how much money I have given to the democratic party and candidates.

You don't know jack shit about me.

What I dish out is my own damn business..and what I have worked for and put my hard earned money into the party for, and given of myself for , And given up Holidays for and housed people for the Dem party for.. years of my life..you have a hell of alot of nerve telling anyone their feelings and opinions are vitriol !

The only people I see spewing Vitriol are the group think Minority on these boards!

People that are spewing Vitriol are the ones attacking others telling them what they must and must not do, and that takes a hell of alot of nerve!

The only people I see nasty around these parts are a very small minority who seem to think by bashing other democrats they will get people elected in November.

Sorry it won't work , those tactics are alienating more people than not around here!

When you want to accuse others of Vitrol , you best get a mirror!

[PassingFair]

48. That was then, this is now.

So shut up and say good things about ALL democrats.

(Except for the "professional left", the "wild-eyed
liberals", the "fucking retards", the "anti-war
nuts", and the "birkenstock-wearing, latte drinking
hippies".)

:sarcasm:

:hug:

[phleshdef]

52. Blah, blah, blah. Feel sorry for yourself just a little more why don't you.

Pathetic meltdowns like that make it even more obvious when one has struck a nerve. It validates the truth in what I said that much more.

[Dr.Phool]

58. You sure know how to win friends and influence voters, don't you?

Disgust the electorate, and wonder how you helped Palin win.

[phleshdef]

61. LOL, I'm glad you think that I'm that powerful and important.

I'm a fucking faceless stranger on the Internet. I'm not working for a campaign and I'm not a politician. I'm like every other dumb ass DUer with an opinion. The over the top dramatization of the importance of what people post on an internet message board kills me.

[stevenleser]

62. Yeah, it really was pathetic. And earned an ignore from me. n/t

[treestar]

72. We know who are you from reading your first paragraph

A put upon victim.

[liquid diamond]

65. Spot on. The bullies took a punch to the nose and they are still

crying about it and playing "victim". It's music to my ears.

[Bluenorthwest]

20. Who are these people that Gibbs says 'never' about?

I'm still not sure what has Gibbs in such a state of snit and need. I have never heard any of these things he claims are constantly on television coming out of liberals. Never heard any of them, except for the many people all over who do continue to call for universal health care as a right. Do these broadcasts come in through his fillings or what?

[jefferson_dem]

23. Thanks Gibbsy!

:patriot: I stand with you!

[flyarm]

25. I don't give one rats ass what that little weasle says..he said enough for me to hear in a lifetime!

just tell that little $##@@# to STFU!

He can kiss my @$$!

from ..a grandnma Professional Liberal druggie.

[DURHAM D]

27. I hate this often repeated crap:

"The President has urged those who want change to push for it and hold him accountable, and that's how he feels."

Whatever happened to just do the right thing. I am not Obama's mother. Why should I, or anyone else, have to make him do the right thing. President or regular citizen - just do the right thing. Why does Obama get by with this crap - time to call him on it.

JUST DO THE RIGHT THING DAMN IT.

[Duke Newcombe]

28. We ARE pushing for a better country, Gibby. Feel free to join us sometime.

When you're not busy echoing RW slurs on those who dare hold your boss to his promises. Burn this saying into your small mind--perhaps you'll get it then:

"My President. When right, to be kept right. When wrong, to be set right."

[Phx_Dem]

33. You are bitching about a better country while the President is DOING things

to make this a better country.

[Duke Newcombe]

34. New deck chairs for the Titanic, my friend.

They look good, and they're nice for some people. Too bad the ship is sinking. That's what happens when you negotiate against yourself from day one, walk away with far less than "half a loaf", then crow about it. But do continue to delude yourself that he's "doing things". Hey...how about doing THE RIGHT THINGS???

[dave29]

39. How do you know you are doing the right thing?

You must have some serious genius going on

[JoeyT]

47. That's true.

I guess instead of bitching on the internet I'll start telling friends my ideas over the warrantlessly tapped landlines. And hope none of them get extraordinary renditioned into a military tribunal. I'd have no choice but to look forward, and hope they didn't prosecute any crimes.

Making this a better country indeed.

[NorthCarolina]

50. Better for whom though?

The poor? The elderly? The shrinking middle class? The wealthy?

[Phx_Dem]

56. Everyone but you.

[EFerrari]

31. That straw man still has no brain.

lol

[Paladin]

35. Too Little, Too Late, Gibbs.

Don't demean yourself with feeble attempts to cover your ass, at this point. Every additional day you remain on the job just gives a clearer picture of what this White House really thinks of liberals. Got any plans to publicly demand that Tea Partiers---rather than progressives---be drug-tested? No, I didn't think so.....

[phleshdef]

36. Gibbs has mocked the tea party on numerous occassions and he didn't demand anyone be drug tested.

Christ, stop pretending you thought he literally meant that. You aren't going to sell your hollow, passionless rhetoric any better by playing stupid.

[Paladin]

49. Give It A Rest. (n/t)

[phleshdef]

51. No. You wanna run your mouth...

...spouting off any bull shit you see fit then you will be challenged.

[liquid diamond]

66. He wasn't talking about ALL of us liberals. Just the irrational

fanatics. As much as you want to spread your misery, it isn't working.

[depakid]

40. Keep on digging in deeper and deeper, Bobby!

We know what you said and what you meant.

There's also little doubt that far worse is said among your inner circle in private.

[Exilednight]

41. progressives and the left are pushing. too bad Gibbs isn't. n/t

[TheKentuckian]

45. Fuck off Fibbs! You got nothing to say

[PassingFair]

53. Isn't that magnanimus of him!

I guess the rest of them are pushing for the destruction of the country.

:eyes:

[Greyhound]

55. Sans clue. K&U.

[JoePhilly]

57. Another ... "I know you are, but what am I??" thread. nt

[Dr.Phool]

59. Fuck you Gibbs!

I think a lot of people have drug tests scheduled for election day. Thanks to you.

Now go back to blowing the Republicans.

[nightrain]

60. we heard you Gibbs... loud and clear... the first time...

[liquid diamond]

63. What? No apology yet?

I'm thrilled that he isn't backing down to these crybabies. That must really get under their skin.
:rofl:

[PM Martin]

64. Unlike you Bobby.

[mitchtv]

67. oh thank God

I feel so much better now

[boppers]

69. The giggle factor continues!

Good on Gibbs, but hay will be made regardless... it's how some folks earn their living.

[jeanpalmer]

70. If he's willing to accept accountability

by all means, we will hold him accountable. What better way to do it than with the vote in '10 and '12.

[Capt.America]

71. Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

[treestar]

73. And we see from the thread professional victims are of course

absolutely determined not to be mollified.