OBAMA: WARREN is a champion...., she, among others, is a strong contender for this position'

[kpete]

UPDATE: White House confirms it -- 6:27 p.m.
Elizabeth Warren met with White House staff on Thursday.

White House spokeswoman Amy Brundage told The Huffington Post that, "The President believes that Elizabeth Warren is a champion for middle class families and consumers and she, among others, is a strong contender for this position. The President has not yet made a decision and no announcement is imminent."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/t/elizabeth-warren-spotted-_21005283319.html

[tularetom]

1. I really hope Obama doesn't screw this up

It would be a real slap in the face of his most loyal supporters not to appoint her.

More importantly it would be a giant "fuck you" to all middle class Americans.

[denimgirly]

5. Since some Repubs like her Obama wont be as scared to nominate her

Obama is more likely to pick her since statistically he tends to do what repubs want and since some repubs like her then he should be ok with nominating her. If it were only democrats then we'd be in deep shit.

[DJ13]

2. ** among others **

[SoxFan]

47. God forbid there be a thorough and professional selection process

[vaberella]

59. Exactly. Because we all know Palin is a perfect example of fantastic vetting. n/t

[Mass]

62. Comparing Warren to Palin? You must be joking.

[SoxFan]

66. Comparing processes, not candidates

It's the difference between a smart, thorough vetting process and the quarter-assed job that McCain carried out in 2008. Read the new Halperin book and you will see what a bad search process looks like.

[Mass]

67. But Warren is a great candidate. Palin was not.

I'd love to see her replace our idiotic junior candidate.

I dont need to read the book of Halperin (and I certainly would not do that) to know Palin was not an ideal candidate, but this has nothing to do with Warren, who has probably already been vetted to get her current position with the administration, I imagine.

If you want to talk about Daschle's vetting, or Geithner's vetting, it is a different issue, but comparing this to Palin is just insulting for Warren. Palin simply did not have the qualifications.

[vaberella]

69. Keep reaching. n/t

[monmouth]

3. I'm getting the feeling he's waiting to see how really pissed we are and

then a crumb (her appointment to this position) will be thrown our way. Too ticked off right now to expand on my speculation, but you get what I mean.

[Whisp]

12. yes, he's sitting on pins and needles to see what monmouth says.

I can just feeeeel it, can't you?

:)

[BootinUp]

4. I think thats a pretty clear signal

its going to be Warren. The only hitch I can imagine is if they talk to the Senate and think they have a problem with confirmation.

[rucky]

10. Oh, there's going to be a problem with confirmation.

But you nominate the best person for the job, anyway. At least if she's not confirmed it's because the obstructionist Senate did it.

[BootinUp]

19. Sure, Presidents like to lose like many of us humans. nt

[rucky]

20. I don't think I need to point out the problem with that.

[BootinUp]

21. ok, but don't expect me to understand your pov then. nt

[rucky]

24. It's been covered a thousand times.

Try & fail, or not try at all?

[BootinUp]

25. That is such a joke, really it is

Its like Kagan saying in 95 or whatever that the confirmation hearings are not real, and then in 2010 when she is the appointee, not wanting to discuss that article. Don't believe everything you read on the internets.

[rucky]

26. You lost me, dude.

Is there something about Warren's past that may hurt her chances, or is it just because she's not Wall Street friendly enough?

[BootinUp]

27. My read on it

Obama, does not want a confirmation loss, (I assume you don't accept that, no matter). It appears it may require some horse trading to get her confirmed, based on Dodds previous statement. She is clearly not the favorite of the wall street connected Senators. My read is that she will be more pro-consumer than someone Dodd would suggest.

[rucky]

30. I accept that's the way things go. I'm sure Dodd has a cushy seat in the boardroom

waiting for him.

But that's the fundamental part of the system that needs to be changed.

I'm eagerly waiting to see that battle that's worth fighting.

[BootinUp]

31. I've been around long enough to recognize your

keep the powder dry reference. I wonder how you picture the fight you suggest? Obama publicly denounces Dodd, Dodd makes up some bullshit excuse, Obama denounces again, other Senators now defend Dodd based on Senate scratch others back bullshit, Obama loses the fight, and you are happier?

[rucky]

34. Then he nominates that person he knows he can get through.

But at least he put his best foot forward, and maybe got some people asking why they'd block Warren. I don't see the shame in that.

[BootinUp]

35. Has nothing to do with shame really. It results in less perceived authority

which has real effects on what he can accomplish on other battles. Just my "realist" opinion.

[rucky]

36. If he rules out Warren, everybody would know why.

And chalk it up as a victory of the obstructionists before the battle is even fought. They've factored into his decision making, and that's just as strong of an influence.

In perspective, this is really a minor disagreement about strategy - not an epic battle within the party.

[TheKentuckian]

56. Dude, tying your own hands or someone else tying them still leaves you without freedom of motion

The logic is circular. You can't do what is needed because if you do then you won't be able to do what you need to do later.

The fixation on going undefeated is foolishness. If you are taking on real challenges then you are all but certain to lose some battles but the wins mean infinitely more.

This perspective is like the Dallas Cowboys going to the Arena League because they haven't won the Super Bowl in a bit.

You've got to beat the best to be the best. Instead we cover for the weakest links by carefully not exposing their true natures.

[jgraz]

43. It sure seems that this one does

How many times has he handed the other side his queen before the game even started?

[tularetom]

Didn't I hear that it was a presidential appointment

that did not require confirmation?

If that's true, that's what really bothers me. If in fact there is no risk of a protracted confirmation battle in the Senate, why the hell would he NOT appoint this excellent candidate?

[BootinUp]

17. My understanding is it requires confirmation nt

[MannyGoldstein]

6. He's buying time. waiting for Geithner to finish staffing the agency

(Obama named Geithner as acting head)

And hoping that he can figure out how to not appoint Warren without getting Democrats even angrier.

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[MannyGoldstein]

8. Well... he's known for months he'd need to fill this position

I don't think there's any other reasonable explanation for the delay, and the thing being staffed by the interim head.

What's your thinking here?

[BootinUp]

11. They've been busy? The Senate has been busy? What have they said

on it?

Why do you think the Obama administration wants to lie to you every chance they get?

[xchrom]

14. LOL! what a weird response -- she could have been nominated already.

it's not like she isn't qualified.

[BootinUp]

16. thank you for the reply

I think.

[SoxFan]

13. .

[jefferson_dem]

15. Pitifully desperate... or desperately pitiful.

Either way, this spin is a massive bucket of FAIL, even for you.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

71. Someone with faith in Geithner to do the people's bidding.

Odd that.

[fogonthelake]

58. Obama will not get any help from Dodd.

[Parker CA]

9. Do the right thing here, Mr. Pres. Please...

[vaberella]

60. He is. He's properly vetting. n/t

[Canuckistanian]

18. Damning her with faint praise

He's going to appoint someone else.

[vaberella]

61. "faint praise"

He's known her longer than you or most others have since he's personally acquainted with her. She was his friend and colleague before you probably ever heard of her and you're sitting there and telling us that Obama is "damning her with faint praise"? The absolute nuttiness on this board knows no end, absolutely none.

[Autumn]

22. I wonder who the others are?

And how strong a contender?

[flpoljunkie]

39. The others...

The administration has floated several candidates for the job, including Assistant Treasury Secretary Michael S. Barr and Eugene Kimmelman, a deputy assistant attorney general in the Justice Department's Antitrust Division.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/12/AR2010081206356_4.html?hpid=artslot&sid=ST2010081300004

[marlakay]

23. If he puts her in there which I don't think he will

it will go a long way in keeping peace with liberals.

[IndianaGreen]

28. Translation: someone else will get the nod.

Been down this primrose path before.

[Demeter]

29. Praising her with faint damns, Indeed

It's going to hurt all these guys to introduce a competent, educated woman with a fan base into the mix. Right in the manhood.

You go, girl!

[vaberella]

63. Of course it does...that's why Obama didn't nominate Clinton to SOS or...

Sotomayor and Kagan to the supreme court---because a really "competent, educated WOMEN with a fan base into the mix," hurts Obama and his Admin's manhood greatly.

[stevenleser]

72. + infinity

SOS is the best and most important job after the President. Not only did he nominate a woman, he nominated his erstwhile rival.

[Duke Newcombe]

32. "Lucy, cue up the football...I'm on my way!"

Us to our Leader.

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[pa28]

37. They got some nice generic compliments but they want a nomination.

Based on comments here it looks like quite a few rank and file types are using the Warren nomination as a line in the sand. Obama is asking for their time and effort ringing doorbells and running phone banks and all the other thankless gotv operations they do because they believe in a cause.

If this particular nomination goes to another bloodless bank lobbyist or DC revolving door type I'm sure Obama can count on some grateful insurance executives or bailed out bank executives to do those jobs. I'm sure he can tell the Liberal campaign apparatus to F*ck off and everything will work out just fine.

[whistler162]

38. +100000

[jgraz]

42. Yes, how dare we talk back to our leaders like this is some sort of "democracy" or something

:eyes:

[Phx_Dem]

44. It's not about valid criticsm or "talking back,"

it's about the nonstop bitching that started weeks after he was elected and hasn't let up.

Non-fucking-stop bitching about every fucking thing you can think of. Thereis absolutely nothing constructive about that.

[jgraz]

45. So we should check with you before we criticize our leaders?

How very Ari Fleischer of you.

[Paladin]

46. "Your Opinion Is The Only One That Matters."

Look who's talking......

[denimgirly]

40. I hope this isnt another PUBLIC OPTION bait and switch by Obama...

I hope Warren is the nominee but we've seen this before by Obama..he praises something then quietly goes down the dark side. Remember the public option. Wellp, lets see how this turns out. I am just hoping that since Obama's dog Geitner got their ways by filling the agency with corporatists that Warren will have little stake when she is put in anyway so maybe Geitner and Obama will be ok with warren now? If that is the case then that is fine...my hope is Warren will clean house when she gets in.

[jgraz]

41. You know it is.

Warren will never get that nomination. Guaranteed.

[scheming daemons]

48. Bookmarking..... n/t

[jgraz]

49. You won't have to.

Unlike you, I'll gleefully admit I was wrong if Obama surprises me here. Don't worry, I'm not expecting the same from you when Obama appoints someone else.

[scheming daemons]

50. I guess there is a first time for everything

...since you've never once admitted you were wrong in any thread I've ever seen on DU.


I'm bookmarking it just the same. I'm 100% sure that, even if you do come back and admit you were wrong when he appoints her, you'll qualify it with some inanity like "he only did it to throw us a bone, he didn't want to do it"... or... "he wouldn't have done it if we didn't 'hold his feet to the fire'".... or some other such nonsense.


He's going to appoint her. He's going to do it because she's the best person for the job.


....and you'll spin that somehow as a negative thing when the time comes. I guarantee it. It's your M.O. You're too "cool" to ever give Obama credit for anything.

[jgraz]

51. So your post was really about me.

Nice to know you care.

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[jgraz]

53. Of course. Have actually ever written a post supporting Obama?

Or are you just here to attack those who aren't sufficiently vocal in their support of Obama?

[jgraz]

55. * cricket noise * cricket noise * cricket noise * cricket noise * cricket noise *

I thought so. :eyes:

[jgraz]

54. Oh, and btw? I admit I'm wrong all the time on this board.

I'll do it again right now:

In 2008, I voted for Obama. I donated to Obama. I volunteered for Obama. I did this because I truly thought he had what it takes to be a great president.


I WAS WRONG.



Happy now?

[fogonthelake]

57. some are never happy. so says gibby.

[vaberella]

64. I'm about to do the same because I doubt any of these posters will eat crow if she is hired.

And if she isn't...they'll scream WEAK, even if the person he hired is utterly competent and qualified.

[jgraz]

65. No, I won't scream WEAK if she isn't hired.

Cuz it'll be pretty obvious that Obama is doing EXACTLY what he intends to do.

This is a key test for Obama. If he doesn't do the right thing here, no amount of excuse-making will cover it up.

[dflprincess]

68. Geitner's appointees may have so badly compromised the agency

that Warren will not want to be associated with it. Then Obama can claim he offered her the job and appear mystified if she turns him down.

More 3D chess.

[jgraz]

70. The agency was set up from the start to be crippled

This is the disaster of Obama's financial reform shell game. No real regulations, just more regulators. The entire thing lives and dies on the specific people put in these new roles. And it looks like Obama and Geithner are committed to keeping the banksters' gravy train running while the world collapses around them.

[LatteLibertine]

73. Please get Warren in there President Obama!