No one wants to be accused of getting a shiver up his/her leg.....

[FrenchieCat]

Like Chris Matthews did.
No one wants to be alleged as being "in the tank for Obama",
the way most news organizations were accused of being all throughout the campaign.
Many believe that will muse up their hard earned "Credentials" as the impartial
judge and jury...

just like the "Liberal" media isn't really Liberal,
and they go out of their way to prove it daily,
the Professional Left don't like highlighting the positive stuff done
from a Democratic Administration because hey....they ain't in the tank,
and plus, old habits die hard. No one wants to read about positivity,
when cynicism, doubt and suspicion always make for a more exciting read!

They can criticize plenty, but they don't have the time to do much more than
minimizing as a "given" the positive.

It's their way of playing "Neutral".

Why not omit, twist, leave out the nuance and simplify every topic?
Hell, the Mainstream media does it, and they never pay any consequences for it.

That's why it is hard to find anyone anywhere ever praising Pres. Obama
for anything. Folks don't want to be accused of being Fans, Cheerleaders,
apologist and the likes. Words that have been used by the Left against their
own since January 2009.

Praising President Obama is not the "In" thing.....
no matter the topic.

You know, him and his pretty speeches, his cool attitude and
his good looks. isn't that enough?

But dogging him out, well, that's another matter, and if you're good at it,
you might even get on the TV! Just Ask Cenk!
Paul Krugman tried it, then felt used by the media for it.

Meanwhile, the Republicans get a towfer....
they get to lie and exaggerate about this administration
every which way, and instead of defenders from the left
rising to the moment, the Left are too busy making their own Critique
against this administration to notice.

So what gets left out in most of the reporting by Professionals,
on television, the Internet and newspaper alike? All of the positive.

and then comes election times, folks will be pointing fingers as to why
folks were less than "enthusiastic" and let the Republicans win by staying
their asses home feeling down and out.

But if many voices state over and over again what's gonna happen,
then eventually that's exactly what happens.
What's that called again? that theory?

FDL - Obama Administration Follows Bush/Cheney On Politicization Of DOJ
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2010/07/04/obama-admi... /


David Sirota: Like Bush, Obama Moves to Bury Bad Economic Data
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/like-bush-ob...


The Atlantic: On National Security, Is Obama Just Like Bush?
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/opinions/view/opinion/On...


Alternet: Under Obama, Like Bush, Immigrant Suspects Face Injustice ...
http://www.alternet.org/immigration/141118/under_obama,... /



Talkleft: Enemy Combatants And Criminal Trials: Is Obama Like Bush ...
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2010/1/5/11168/85336



MotherJones: Obama=Bush?
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2009/03/obamabush



Counterpunch: Obama and Duncan's Education Policy: Like Bush's, Only Worse.
http://www.counterpunch.org/weil08242009.html



Ted Rall: Obama doesn't talk like Bush; he just acts like him ...
http://www.sj-r.com/opinions/x1331535931/Ted-Rall-Obama...



Christian Science Monitor: Obama touts withdrawal in Iraq war. Does he sound like Bush ...
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2010/0802/Obama-t...



NPR: Obama's Homeland Security Looks A Lot Like Bush's : The Two-Way
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2009/07/obamas_home...



"Little difference" between Obama, Bush in substance
www.chomsky.info/interviews/20090624.htm


George W. Obama
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...



Obama - another Bush in the making
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/2763815-obama...


5 Reasons Obama Is the Same as Bush
http://politics.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispe...


Obama Equals the Third Installment of Bush Policy
http://enableate.com/steve/2009/1508


WSJ: "In Berlin, Obama's Becoming Just Another Bush"
http://atlanticreview.org/archives/1272-WSJ-In-Berlin,-...


Obama equals Bush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Whu_3LDnE


Libertarians say Obama same as Bush
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligen...


Obama = Bush 3 Updated
http://southdakotapolitics.blogs.com/south_dakota_polit...


Chomsky: Obama Policies Same As Bush
http://www.prisonplanet.com/chomsky-obama-policies-same...



Obama and Bush are not so far apart
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/13/wall.bush-obama/...


Obama Equals Bush Bumper Sticker Designs & Templates
http://www.zazzle.ca/obama+equals+bush+bumperstickers



Of course, there's more.

[Jim Sagle]

1. K and U.

[FrenchieCat]

2. I know, I'm so out of style,

I'm fucking hell of boring.

[Name removed]

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[FrenchieCat]

6. It's a mirror for you. Whatever you see is your reflection.

[Powdered Toast Man]

19. Oooooh! Back to elementary school!!! Nt

[spoony]

30. Odd, I don't think I've ever owned a red dress. nt

[Catherina]

52. Then please turn it around so I can see my reflection. All I see is you, curly brown hair and all.

The picture absolutely does you justice.

[bvar22]

55. How Cute!

The child's version of the Tu Quoque logical fallacy.

[Powdered Toast Man]

4. The more he compromises

The more complaints there will be. He gives up too much on too many policies to people who only care about making sure he fails. Enough is enough. Don't want the criticism? Then deliver the REAL change we were all hoping for. Stop letting the GOP walk all over him.

[FrenchieCat]

7. And that's why soon enough, you'll be having someone else to complain about....

but it won't be about compromises....it will be about shit you hate and no one will give a fuck, at all.

[HipChick]

11. LOL! It's almost like they won't be happy till a Rethug gets back in..

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[Powdered Toast Man]

17. Wouldn't go that far.

Won't be happy until I get the President I thought I voted for. I am hoping I get him in his second term.

[HipChick]

24. It's going to take more than 2 terms to deal with the pile of crap Bush left

[spoony]

31. Actually the people wishing for Republicans to take office on DU

are the ones starting threads about how we don't deserve Obama and he shouldn't run again. Look it up.

[BklnDem75]

72. Actually it's the vote terrorists

Threatening to hold their vote hostage until their demands are met.

[Powdered Toast Man]

12. Then I suppose he had better stop compromising.

I think it's time to stop shooting the messangers, and time to start addressing the message.

[scheming daemons]

32. The messengers are living in an alternate reality of their own making

...

[Cleita]

5. What is the point of your post?

[Powdered Toast Man]

8. To continue her other post and hope this one gets some recs. IMO / NT

[FrenchieCat]

10. I don't give a shit about recs.....

I gave up on those long ago.
But counting the number of views is interesting,
and more telling IMO.

[Powdered Toast Man]

14. Yes. It gives you an idea of how many people you are pissing off. nt

[FrenchieCat]

16. or not. How would you even know?

You are all seeing and all knowing too, hey?

[Powdered Toast Man]

18. Didn't you hear?

I have magical powers. By the way... How heavy is it?

[FrenchieCat]

20. The magic wand?

There ain't none.

[Powdered Toast Man]

21. No silly,

The cross you're lugging around tonight. And I thought Jesus had it rough.

[FrenchieCat]

22. I will be crucified over on that other site......

but I'm used to it.

I'm not martyr, nor do I think of myself as one.
I'm just fucking tired of the entitlement that many
folks believe they have.

I wrote a post a long time ago,
and the shit is true to this day!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[Powdered Toast Man]

23. We knew that is how it would be when he decided to run.

He has to be squeaky clean and essentially flawless. He shouldn't have to be, but we all knew he would be judged harder than he should be; including himself. That is why it baffles me to see him making so many compromises. It just makes him look weak. Unfortunately I have way too many right wing friends. They all say they would feel better about him if he would just take control and stop compromising.

Followers like to be led.

[Powdered Toast Man]

25. And with that... Off to bed. Nt

[HipChick]

26. It doesn't baffle me...

He is being held to a standard that no other president has had to be held to..

[FrenchieCat]

9. I felt like it....

Possibly the same reason you felt like asking me that question.

[ZombieHorde]

13. Next time try adding a link or two to back up your claims.

rec

[nofurylike]

27. wow, put up the facts demanded - 'WHO EVER said Obama is

the same as * ?!' - and look at the reaction.

certainly got under some skin, ah.


thanks, again, FrenchieCat.


peace and solidarity

[ProgressOnTheMove]

28. Always wonderful posts Frenchie.

[Uzybone]

29. KnR

Nice catalog of whining from the professional "left"

[spoony]

33. "used by the Left against their own"

Uh, you guys have made it pretty clear you aren't part of the left. Remember, they turn you off? They haven't accomplished anything in this generation? Etc etc. So I don't know where you're getting this "their own" business.

[FrenchieCat]

35. Duh! My own turn me off. Especially the Nader voters, and the ones

that say they are Democrats here, and say they are something else, when they are on some other sites.
So I'm part of the Left, and if you don't like it; tough shit!

[LooseWilly]

34. So... you're providing an assload of links that provide evidence of Obama's failures...

to prove that the evidence is faulty?

Am I getting this right?

So... one second, still trying to get my head around this... so— the evidence and evidentiary support is all faulty, because ... it supports an assertion you don't like? —err, I mean an assertion that you do not accept (despite evidence, and apparently with no sense of urgency to provide counter-evidence of your own????).

How is this different than Palin assertions that it is Obama's fault that the BP oil platform started leaking? I mean, all the evidence pointed to a contrary conclusion, but Palin never-the-less came to the conclusion that she did... and all the "evidence" was simply evidence that the media and "evidentiaries" were biased against her "truth".

How is that different than what you are here asserting?

You say: "Praising President Obama is not the "In" thing....." - and then you post 22 links to what I presume are criticisms (I needed a membership to read the Chomsky one... alas)... and you still persist, despite the pile of supporting documentation you yourself provide... in pretending it's about "fashion"?, and completely unrelated to the 22 friggin' links you provide that question the merits of Obama's policies???

I think it might be time to take advantage of the Health Insurance you can currently afford... and talk to someone.

[FrenchieCat]

36. No, doh-doh....I'm proving that the only thing the Professional Left do is

what's in style, and that's dumping on this President, cause they don't want to be accused of having gotten a shiver up their fucking leg, but you simply didn't get what I said, although everyone prior to you, obviously did.

See, old habits die hard.
Never a discussion of the good, which is why I have no links of such...

and of course, you must be right there with them,
not wanting to acknowledge anything positive.
But what else is new? At this point, that's what you are known for;
overwhelming negativity....cause I do believe that mean spirited folks
in the United States currently reign.

[Name removed]

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[TheKentuckian]

43. I'm not a chauvinist. I'm a condescending asshole

[FrenchieCat]

46. Same difference.

[nightrain]

38. sadly Obama has continued many of Bush's most horrendous policies--

torture, invasion and occupation of other nations, rendition, rolling back of habeus corpus, spying on Am citizens, etc etc.

If we didn't like them under Bush, why should we give Obama a pass on them?

[FrenchieCat]

39. That's not exactly true.....

but thanks for the professional Lefty propaganda.

Anything positive to say, or is that not part of what a Professional does?

[nightrain]

41. you seem to be on quite the attacking sarcastic mode tonight... can you drop that and talk?

[FrenchieCat]

42. I'm responding to your assinine comments as I stumble upon them.....

Full of hyperbole, exaggerations, intellectual dishonesty, and black and white thinking.

[nightrain]

44. okay... let us know when the anger/sarcasm subsides and you can talk

[FrenchieCat]

45. I've been talking all day, thank you.

I don't need to play victim or even to rationalize why the Professional Left that
equate Obama to Bush now all of the sudden are 75% of DU members and are fucking outraged,
and indignant that anyone, and I mean anyone could throw shit at them, although that is
exactly what they fucking do all day long.

I've got the fact that folks just don't like this Pres, and that they wanted him to do everything
in a totally different way, and believe that if they were President,
everything would be exactly as they have imagined it.

I understand the superiority complex, the excessive hubris, and lack of humility that you mentioned earlier and how it manifest itselves in these "professionals"....as I think that it is they who feel so entitled and important that they can poo-poo 31 million Americans being able to see a doctor without going through an emergency room, or them thinking that students being able to borrow money at a cheaper price ain't nothing at all.

As long as the world was not remade entirely by August 10th, then there will be hell to pay.
I got it. Folks who want revenge as proof of their righteousness.....those are the folks who
really don't give a fuck about anything beyond their own ego, period....and you actually know it.

[nightrain]

47. maybe take a break?

[FrenchieCat]

48. Yeah....I might make more sense than you can take.

It has happened before. That's why those at other websites hate me so much....
cause at the end of the day, they understand that their mean spiritness is the only
thing that they've got going for them.

[nightrain]

49. no FrenchieCat, the anger and sarcasm seems to be taking over, maybe take a break for yourself.

[FrenchieCat]

50. Thanks for your selfless recommendations!

[nightrain]

51. okay.... misattribution....

[moksha]

71. As your bubble shrinks, you may need to look within for the root of the problem.

[Forkboy]

73. Don't expect to talk to her before 2020 then.

[cherokeeprogressive]

65. Not exactly true is comparable to not exactly pregnant.

But you don't get that.

[killbotfactory]

53. What a furious unrecing

I hope you feel properly chastised for not being swept up in the massive flurry of bullshit outrage.

[30rock]

68. How do you measure the fury in an unrec'ing?

?

[Beetwasher]

54. No One Says Obama Is Like Bush!!! Who Says That? Oh...

Well, umm....You stink!

[bvar22]

56. Ahhh, Dear Frenchie,

If you are trying to prove that Obama is NOT like Bush,
it doesn't help your case to post a ton of factual evidence demonstrating how Obama is continuing some of the worst Bush Policies.

Did you read the links you posted?

And a word of advice,
If you ever go to court, do not try to be your own lawyer.

[xiamiam]

61. yep this one confused me because most of those sources links are

knowledgeable and without reading i would probably agree with most..i was about to thank the op for the links when i actually noticed it was frenchie..twisted my mind for a second..thanks frenchie

the only one i think is flaky out of that list is chris matthews because he blows with the wind so i dont really believe anything he says..and he is always so certain to pronounce cheneys name correctly that i think there is something wierd about that as well..and he has tom delay..or used to . on his show way too often

[asdjrocky]

57. U&K

Just more of the same rubbish.

[27inCali]

58. They act like we are stupid and we don't hear what they say

We've been paying attention all along. Every two bit so-called Liberal blog has been flaming Obama since jump street because it gets them attention from the rest of the media. So essentially, they are selling out their own movement for personal gain.

these people think they have all the answers, when what they have is a few good policy ideas and no fucking clue how to get any of it into law.

until they figure out how to put 60 reliable Progressives in the Senate, they aren't going to get anything they want, and yet somehow they think the answer is NOT voting and beleaguering every Dem to make sure there are even less Dems in the Senate next year. It's like watching mentally ill people who complain constantly of being victimized and are at the same time always looking for new situations in which they can be victimized.

Victims don't win shit. When is that very vocal 10-15% of the Left gonna figure that out?

[Goldstein1984]

62. That's exactly the point

That principled 10 - 15% on the Left don't want to win shit. We've already had shit. We're still looking for change. Selling out, what Centrists call "being pragmatic," doesn't work for us.

As has been said over and over again: The lesser of two evils is still evil. The party that doesn't suck as much still sucks. And no vote is wasted that is cast by a person who can look themselves in the mirror the next morning.

[saracat]

59. Pehaps some chanting in a 7-11 will put you in a better frame of mind!

[uponit7771]

60. NO ONE equated Obama to Bush!!! ........on Sunday night at 3 am....no one

[Hekate]

63. KnR Frenchie

Mercy No words

[cherokeeprogressive]

64. More entertaining by the day. I kid you not. I never thought I'd see the day when desperation was

entertaining, but I've found it here at DU.

Actually, I never thought about thinking about desperation being entertaining, but I'm seeing it here.

Come to think of it, I never thought I'd ever think of thinking about desperation being entertaining, but here I am doing it.

Fuck, while I'm at it, I never thought I'd ever think of thinking I'd think about desperation being entertaining, but by golly, here we are, and here I am.

Like Frenchie says... "Of course, there's more."

So I was thinking... Oh fuck it.

[smalll]

66. Well-wrtten post. But Obama's just facing an "equal and opposite reaction" --

This is just a counter-swing in the pendulum.

You write,

"Folks don't want to be accused of being Fans, Cheerleaders,
apologist and the likes. Words that have been used by the Left against their
own since January 2009.

Praising President Obama is not the "In" thing.....
no matter the topic."

But two years ago or so, there WERE fans and cheerleaders. There WERE tinglings in legs. Obama was suddenly the flavor of the month (if not year) and not just in politics, but in pop-culture as well -- he WAS the "In Thing".

Live by cool, die by cool. The resistance you see to him now, from various angles, is in great part simple embarassment over our collective crush of two years ago.

[CTLawGuy]

67. Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours

NT

[moksha]

69. Thank you for the collection of Bush policies that Obama has continued.

I think you may have missed some, but you got a good bit of them.

Now, I don't think Obama equals Bush, but he has, undeniably, continued and expanded some of the worst of Bush's policies.

Recommend!

[BeyondGeography]

70. Too many on the Left are terminal malcontents

And they are cozy enough materially to weather the storm of another Republican Maladministration. Or two or three.

They would put their intellectual vanity before the need to incrementally improve this country for the people they profess to care so deeply about.

And, as your post reminds us, they are often completely full of shit.

[Forkboy]

74. Good Lord, that is some hardcore shite, right there.

I bet the OP pulls down 10x what I do. I bet the OP lives much nicer than I do. I bet the OP has more cars than I do. I bet the OP isn't worried about paying rent and eating in the same month.

Tell me more about this material comfort stuff.

[FrenchieCat]

75. How would you fucking know what the OP is going through?

And unlike you, the OP ain't all about what's in it for her....

[Forkboy]

76. LOL

Hi, sweety!

[FrenchieCat]

77. Hey, rich person with nothing to do by be on the computer all day!

[Forkboy]

78. That's not fair. I'm sure you have plenty to do.

On edit, maybe you don't plenty to do. I just looked and you have almost 10,000 more posts than I do in 2 years less time. You were saying something about being on the computer all day?

Don't ever change. This kind of amusement usually has to be paid for.

[FrenchieCat]

79. I do......

That's why you will find that I don't post for last chunks of time......

[Forkboy]

80. Well, as I just added, you have almost 10,000 more posts then I, in 2 years less time.

Maybe those chunks should be longer if you going to attempt to mock someone for being on the computer all day.

[FrenchieCat]

81. Perhaps I type faster than you.

I'm thinking that I do.

[Forkboy]

82. LOL...like I said, this kind of amusement usually has to be paid for.

[FrenchieCat]

85. So do you normally pay for it?

Strange.

[Forkboy]

87. For comedy this good I usually have to go to a club to see a professional standup.

Keep it comin', baby!

[Chan790]

83. In the words of my dead grandpa...

"If everybody says you're a f*cking moron, you're probably a f*cking moron."

Likewise, if the people that voted for you have grown disenchanted and the people that championed your cause are calling you on your BS...you're probably not doing a bang-up job of it.

If Democrats get hammered in the midterms the blame lies with the defeated, the White House and the party leadership, not the voters. They simply can't blame the voters for rejecting what they deem to be "failure" by the metrics the electorate has decided upon. You can't shift the blame for failure to govern onto the electorate...it's ludicrous to even suggest that.

Personally, I vote for my issues, not the letter after your name. I have little respect for anybody who makes their electoral decisions otherwise.

Also, there is no dignity in being the President's unthinking cheerleader. We would call that "rooting for the laundry" where I grew up. It's not a good thing.

[FrenchieCat]

86. Latest polls on Democrats satisfaction with this President

doesn't back up what you are saying.

Which mean you have to ask who the morons really are?

[Chan790]

88. You, clearly.

I was not aware that independents leaned heavily for McCain. Oh wait, they didn't.

Democrats are not the only ones who supported him then and they're not necessarily the ones he needs to be sweating now. He's lost support among non-democrats who supported him versus where he was just after the inauguration. That's certainly not an indicator of achieving change they believed in. That was before his moron of a Press Secretary alienated the activist-left wing of the party to top off this clusterfuck.

Democratic voices are not the only ones that matter. In fact, he can't win in 2012 if the only people that support him are the laundry rooters like you. So, if he wants a second term, he needs to do something different from what he's doing now because what the President is doing now, isn't working.

[Whisp]

84. excellent! nt

[DailyGrind51]

89. What, it should shiver down?