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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:08 PM
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Good news for us 'Professional Leftists' - they're taking us seriously
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 06:11 PM by MannyGoldstein
First they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you win."

- Mahatma Ghandi

For the first year-and-a-half of Obama's presidency, we were ignored (e.g., shut out of health care discussions) and laughed at (e.g., legalizing marijuana). Obama's DLC cabal thought they had traditional Democrats (a.k.a., the "professional left") all locked up per the Clintonian "Who the fuck else ya gonna vote for, assholes?!" strategy.

Recent events indicate the Obama administration's bravado is crumbling. They're getting worried that Scott Brown's victory, borne of apathetic Democrats staying home, will be writ large across America come November.

The first flinch, I believe, was that a leader for the new office of Consumer Economic Protection Bureau has not been named for weeks. Normally, a Wall Street insider would have been promptly named, but it apparently became clear to the Administration that this wouldn't fly - they needed to pretend to help working Americans. So instead, Obama named Geithner as temporary head for a few weeks so he could staff it with Wall Street insiders before (we're told) nominating Elizabeth Warren, an actual Democrat, to the post. (One only hopes that Warren starts by cleaning house.)

Gibbs' whining today about the "professional left" is not an act of strength - it is an act of weakness, like a little child who can't get his way. It is the beginning of the next stage in Ghandi's model.

The battle is on - the White House is starting to retreat. We'll be tossed a few baubles to shut us up, but we can't let that appease us - let's keep up the pressure and force them to embrace Democratic ideals.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:11 PM
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1. If we're professionals
How come I'm not getting paid?
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:22 PM
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7. Hey, it's just like all your other jobs. Same bennies, too.
:evilgrin:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:12 PM
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2. You are nothing more than a fly in the ointment. nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:13 PM
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3. Is that what you are, manny? nt
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27inCali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:06 PM
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21. so you are paid to post attacks on Obama here?
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 07:08 PM by 27inCali
clarifies so much......

(sorry, replied to wrong post)
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:14 PM
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4. so whose side are you on?
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:15 PM
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5. And so, apparently, are the stealth unreccers of this thread!
n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:16 PM
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6. "They're getting worried that Scott Brown's victory"
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 06:17 PM by ProSense
"The battle is on - the White House is starting to retreat."

My head is exploding from trying not to laugh.

On second thought...

:rofl:


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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:25 PM
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8. About that drug test...
:rofl:
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:31 PM
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9. are you saying you get paid for your opinions here?
that's quite the confession.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:33 PM
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10. I'm a lefty
ever since they moved the bar over from the former moderate being a professional I don't think so. The professional unreccers are out for this thread though. Must of hit a nerve Manny.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:38 PM
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11. It's pretty predictable lately
Recs go up for a minute or two, then suddenly plummet to 0.

The timing is coincidental, no doubt.
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:41 PM
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12. They move as a herd. n/t
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:51 PM
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17. Ah, Up to +1 now
But reinforcements will swoop in.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:46 PM
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14. "professional unreccers"
:rofl:

:thumbsup:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:55 PM
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19. They seem to
have gotten to this thread.


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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:00 PM
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20. No one needs to be paid to unrec your threads, ProSense.
:hi:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:12 PM
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22. Ah, so
when they unrec threads like this one, they're paid, but when they unrec threads you don't agree with, they're righteous?

OK!

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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 08:52 PM
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25. Nah, I guess people just don't like your posts enough to Rec them.
Sorry. :shrug:

Don't take your Rec/Unrec score personally, though. It's not a judgment about you, just your posts.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:14 PM
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27. It would probably help if he/she didn't misrepresent things so much.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:21 PM
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29. I wouldn't
say that. Sometimes my fans aren't alert.

:rofl:

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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:32 PM
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31. You have FANS, do you? Oh, very posh!
Let me just step back behind the velvet rope and tug my forelock. :blush:

I wouldn't want to trouble a celebrity, after all. They're the closest thing we have to royalty!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:35 PM
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32. Yes, you should stop in and meet them sometime
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 09:35 PM by ProSense
They have a serious aversion to good news.

:rofl:

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:10 PM
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:19 PM
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38. I notice people have no problem
with blue links when they lead to bogus opinions.

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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 12:12 PM
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57. Well, if it was self-effacing humor, I applaud you.
That's a rare thing to do be able to pull off at DU without some asshole agreeing with you.

(Sorry, hard to tell without clicking the Mysterious Blue Links of Ill Repute.)
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:18 PM
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37. you got THAT right
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 01:03 AM
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44. I do it as a Public Service.
Besides, anyone can just go to whitehouse.gov and get her opinions straight from the source.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:30 PM
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39. I'd unrec them for free, but I can't see them.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 12:52 PM
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58. I make it a point to only use Ignore against repeat personal attackers.
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 01:30 PM by Ignis
So far, ProSense hasn't fallen into that category. Credit where it's due. :)

ETA: ...Against me, I should add. If I ignored every fan of the argumentum ad hominem on DU, it would be an incredibly lonely place.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 12:10 AM
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42. !
:spray:
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 08:52 AM
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51.  I am not a professional
I do it for free.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 01:33 PM
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59. It's an avocation...
But a compelling one.

Hell, at least we're not playing FarmVille. ;)
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 06:57 PM
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64. I finished my FarmVille at 7:00 this morning and
got my crops all planted. Just got to get back on and harvest this evening. Sorry, it's an addiction. :blush:
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:06 PM
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65. Oh, ouch.
The first step is admitting you have a problem. :hug:
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:32 PM
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23. If the White House attacked professional unreccers scores of DUers would admit to being exactly that
just so that they could once more claim to be victims of presidential persecution.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 08:59 PM
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26. Would they?
I don't own a crystal ball, so I guess I'll have to take your word for it. :shrug:

I will admit to harboring just a teensy bit of doubt that the White House stays up nights worrying about DU post Rec/Unrec scores. But if they're really that concerned, perhaps Mr. Gibbs would agree with the idea floated here recently that only paid members of the site (or "donors," if you prefer) should be allowed to Rec/Unrec a post?

Well, only donors who are willing to piss in a cup first, of course!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:33 PM
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40. Awesome reply! See you in November, comrade!!!
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 11:34 PM by Forkboy
We'll show these tykes what for!!!! :thumbsup:
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:45 PM
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13. K&R. Great minds think alike:
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:50 PM
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15. Cheers!
:toast:
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:51 PM
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16. I'm still at the "laugh at you" stage with you, Manny
...
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 06:53 PM
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18. I'm glad I can bring joy to your life
Everyone should be happy.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:50 AM
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 01:34 PM
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60. Curiosity has me on this...
Edited on Wed Aug-11-10 01:34 PM by rasputin1952
How can the GOP pick up anything, when they don't have anything for a platform except "no"? I'd be surprised if they didn't lose some seats in both houses.
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denimgirly Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 07:32 PM
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24. K&R - THANK YOU!
Speaking the truth!!
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:16 PM
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28. And after the baubles don't work
be prepared for more beatings. Obama is not "turning left" while he is President, he has a set agenda, same as he campaigned on.

Note: When they ridicule you that doesn't mean they are ready to act on your advice. Just a tip.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:56 PM
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33. He campaigned on a public option for health insurance
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 09:59 PM by MannyGoldstein
fighting al Qaeda, restoring the rule of law, ending DADT, and fighting for working Americans.

What does that have to do with what he's done?

I guess that he never promised to not slash Social Security, so he's OK on that one.

(One of us is very confused.)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:26 PM
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:01 PM
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34. Yeah! Slashing Social Security!
Yeah! Gays are second-class people!

Yeah! Secret prisons and "extraordinary rendition"!

Yeah! Biggest banker bonuses ever in the history of the world, because we're backing them with $12+ trillion in our tax money!

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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 05:50 AM
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50. not to mention....
yeah! spy on citizens!
yeah! assassinate citizens without due process based on "suspician"
yeah! up the ante (and death toll) in Afghanistan!
yeah! bailout insurance industry!


and coming soon to a nursing home near you...Yeah! cut social security!
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 04:40 PM
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61. What a load.
Yeah! Obama didn't let Single Payer advocates anywhere near the debate!

:grr:

Yeah! Obama laughed in the face of those who would like to legalize weed!

:grr:

Yeah! Obama is removing all but a token 50,000 troops from Iraq! And he's moving 30,000 more troops into Afghanistan!

:grr:

I want my Democratic President who fights for Democratic principles!

:think:
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:13 PM
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36. K & R
I like this :)
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:46 PM
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41. K & R nt
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 12:31 AM
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43.  K+R. Well said.
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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 01:14 AM
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45. if you really believed that, you wouldn't act the way you do.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 05:15 AM
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48. Agreed. The OP can't have it both ways
So does that mean that all the people getting the vapors over the Rude Pundit rant were wrong because this is really a GOOD thing based on the OP's theory? One or the other - it CANNOT be the hateful occurrence that has spawned so much yelling and gnashing of teeth and a simultaneous sign of good things to come.
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electricray Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 02:26 AM
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46. Kick because that is one of my favorite quotes. Spot on, too. N/T
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 04:09 AM
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47. K&R -- spot on as usual, Manny (nt)
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 05:41 AM
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49. you are a professional leftist?
You get paid to be a leftist and that is your career?

Unless you are a pundit, TV/Radio talk show host or owner of a major liberal blog, Gibbs wasn't talking about you.
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:05 AM
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52. They're too gutless to fight Republicans, which is who they should be fighting.
But they'll fight us because they think they might be able to win that fight.
They're wrong about that too.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 09:49 AM
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53. You don't fight those whose political agenda mirrors your own. eom
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Cherchez la Femme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 11:43 AM
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56. +101
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 11:29 AM
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55. If they're truly worried about depressing turnout like the Scott Brown election
then why would Gibbs take a crap all over the people who got them elected?
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 04:43 PM
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62. If you equate Obama to Bush, no, they don't take you seriously
Because that is a fucking insane position to take.

If you think the biggest political hurdle to progressive goals you face is the white house, you are fucking insane.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 05:00 PM
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63. LOL. Yep, being told to take a drug test is a great example of that!
That's as funny as saying progressives are the ones "who brung him."
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 07:25 PM
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66. Too late, and they'll be a dollar short.
Not giving the Party a fucking dime. I'll support candidates, if there are any left who aren't corporate shills.
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