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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 08:34 PM
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Is There Anything Obama Could Have Done To Remain Popular?
Edited on Fri Jul-16-10 08:37 PM by babylonsister
This is assuming he isn't popular, which is not true. Otherwise, it's a fair analysis. Or not. :D


http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-chait/76314/there-anything-obama-could-have-done-remain-popular

Is There Anything Obama Could Have Done To Remain Popular?

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Okay, but what if Obama never promised to reform health care in the first place? Suppose furthermore that he enacted a much smaller stimulus, and let's suppose that conservatives are right that such a plan would have helped the economy as much or more. And suppose that he decided not to pursue financial reform -- or, at least, pursued a plan that gained the assent of Wall Street and, thus, many Republicans. Would he be more popular now?

Let me answer this question with another question: Am I the only person who remembers George H.W. Bush? He presided over a recession, albeit a far milder one. And he was lambasted for lacking an agenda. The notion that Bush lacked a domestic agenda was the defining indictment of his presidency. Here's a very typical piece of analysis, also from the New York Times, from April 30, 1992:

Fifty-eight percent of the 1,151 registered voters questioned April 20-23 said the Administration was drifting without clear policies. More than a third said it was moving carefully to develop its plans, a reversal from April 1989, at the start of the Bush Presidency, when 61 percent said the Administration was moving carefully. ...

Acknowledging that Mr. Bush had not yet given Americans a vision of where he would take the country in a second term, Marlin Fitzwater, the President's spokesman, said, "By the time of the convention we want to have laid out an intellectual framework of what's been accomplished, what needs to be reformed and our vision of the future."


Even if Obama had the political space with Democrats to abandon his campaign platform, and even if he could have enacted some non-controversial stimulus without any economic ill effects, voters would still be upset over the economy. The accusation would simply be that he's an impotent bystander to the crisis. It's certainly true that voters disapprove of the stimulus. But that's no reason to assume that Obama had any more politically expedient course of action at hand. Different world leaders have tried all sorts of domestic approaches during the economic crisis, and pretty much all of them have seen their popularity fall.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 08:36 PM
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1. Play the saxaphone?
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 09:48 PM
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10. Saxophone.
BTW Adolph Sax the iventor of the saxophone circa 1840 was a hated indidual. The horn was invented for the orchestra as a low brass instrument.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 08:37 PM
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2. He is still popular
The MSM is full of shit.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 08:38 PM
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5. This is a defense of what Obama had/has to contend with, even
though I agree with you about the title, and edited to reflect that.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 08:38 PM
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3. If he did every single thing the pundits told him to do, his numbers would be exactly the same
nt
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 08:38 PM
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4. K&R
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 08:38 PM
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6. Herd of ponies?
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 08:48 PM
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7. How am I supposed to feed this pony?
If the government is going to mandate that I have a pony, they should pay for feed, stable, etc.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 09:34 PM
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8. BWAAAHAHAHAHA!
Best post of the day!
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 09:42 PM
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9. No, puppies!
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 10:57 PM
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11. With certain DUers? NO.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 11:06 PM
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12. He should have unpacked his Magic Wand
and transformed into Sweden on January 21st, at midnight.

Since he didn't, of what use is he? :shrug:



:sarcasm:
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 01:17 AM
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13. Short of turning water to wine?
Even that would have caused his detractors to say he was promoting alcoholism.
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 01:26 AM
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14. Babylon Sister, you are asking two questions ... assuming he was
popular or not popular! Is that right?
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 01:31 AM
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15. BSis: First off, Rick Warren had no right being at the inauguration, that
was a slap in the face of the GLBT community who supported President Obama, voted for him and to me, being straight, that was a no no!
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 01:41 AM
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16. BSis, when Senator Obama ran for the Presidency, he knew it was
not American Idol, he knew what he was getting into but with all the political support he got in with, he elected to be bipartisan, and that was his downfall! He knew how the rethugs are and yet he wanted to work with them and Rick Warren? That is such an insult!

And it seems as though he is still sleeping, hoping the GOP will work with him!
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