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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 11:52 PM Original message |
At least 10 Presidents better on environment than Obama |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-12-10 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. Just wait until legalized whaling is announced later on this month... |
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HooptieWagon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-14-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
47. LOL! but so true, unfortunately. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
2. Nixon was our greatest environmental president |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:33 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. That's a bit of a stretch |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. NEPA, the endangered species act, the clean water act, the clean air act, and the EPA |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. The foundation was laid in the 1960s |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:58 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Johnson deserves a lot of credit, I concur |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 01:05 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Please take a look at that link |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 01:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. I did take a look at it |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 01:43 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I think maybe you should brush up on your research |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 02:20 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I would also like to ask you to consider this |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
33. Presidents (for the most part) cannot control what happens under their tenure |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 11:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Nixon didn't exactly enact the legislation-- he signed it |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 11:46 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I think that today's politicians |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-14-10 04:16 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. You might want to take a look at this: |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-14-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. So? |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 09:44 AM Response to Reply #15 |
29. LOL. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. And how are you an expert? |
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Bryn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 11:11 AM Response to Reply #4 |
32. Thanks for the link |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
35. Well... that all depends. |
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Submariner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 02:39 AM Response to Reply #2 |
18. It took a river to catch fire to kick off the first Earth Day |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 03:54 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Don't forget the Santa Barbara disaster |
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Bryn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
3. Republicans of 20-30 years ago ... |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:36 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. It is maddening, isn't it? |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-14-10 12:25 AM Response to Reply #5 |
42. Maybe a neo-reactionary? |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-14-10 12:42 AM Response to Reply #5 |
43. Nixon launched a secret war in Cambodia and used the FBI to terrorize peace activists |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 08:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
38. True and given that ... I shudder to think |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-14-10 01:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
48. And? |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
6. I'd say context has a lot to do with it, but this is a good read. |
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Ex Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-14-10 05:45 AM Response to Reply #6 |
45. if not for Carter, we wouldn't be fighting over ANWR |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
11. NONE of those mentioned, had to start from the point where Obama did. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 01:10 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Cleaning up the MMS pronto- given all that was known, was a no brainer |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-14-10 01:51 PM Response to Reply #11 |
51. Excellent Point, pnorman and one that won't |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
14. this has made at least one apologist/unreccer very unhappy... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-14-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #14 |
52. Yeah, probably into reality and didn't want |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 04:36 AM Response to Original message |
20. Clinton? "also blamed for being unable to secure support for the Kyoto..." |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 05:57 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Nobody believes it when things are spun unrealistically |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 06:09 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Thanks for sharing that. |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. True. You can choose to be part of the problem or part of the solution |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 06:11 AM Response to Original message |
23. I think it all depends...those Presidents had 4 to 8 years to do something. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 06:27 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. No doubt he has an opportunity to expand on what he has already done |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 07:35 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. I agree. This is the main part of environmental policy that needs to be addressed. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-14-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
49. Furthermore, they had the times they were in. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
26. K&R. n/t |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
27. Really ugly post. Congrats nt |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
28. Uh, you can't compare 4/8 years of another president with 1 1/2 of Obama's. |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 10:29 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. Or Pope? |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-14-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #39 |
53. Pope was looking at the President's record so far.. |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-14-10 03:37 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. "Previous three decades" |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
30. Glad to oblige...but these are just during the first 100 days: |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-14-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
50. Rec this Post....Thanks janx, for this major reality check in a thread |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-14-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #30 |
54. +1 |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
31. ..."wanting to give Obama a boost..." ? |
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Raine1967 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-13-10 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
37. Well if that is the case, at least 33 were a lot worse.... eom |
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