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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:34 PM
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Obama To Seniors: GOP Will Re-Open The Doughnut Hole, Privatize Your Medicare

Obama To Seniors: GOP Will Re-Open The Doughnut Hole, Privatize Your Medicare

The most exciting part of today’s health care town hall occurred when a transgendered senior asked the President a question about managing chronic health conditions (watch that HERE), but the most effective portion came in the introduction. Echoing the arguments of some Senate Democrats, Obama framed the GOP’s efforts to repeal the health care law as an attempt to take away immediate health benefits:

OBAMA: There are some folks are against health reform in Congress. They still think that none of this should have happened. They don’t think you should be getting these rebates. Don’t think we should be closing this doughnut hole. In fact, you have an entire party out there that’s running on a platform of repeal. They want to roll back all of these reform efforts. They say they have their own plan, but over the last 14 months of debate, they never seriously advanced it. And when you look at it, you can see why.

They would roll back the rebate to help you pay for your medicine, if you fall in the doughnut hole. They’d roll back the free preventive care for Medicare recipients. And away from seniors, they would roll back all of the insurance provisions that make sure that insurance companies are not cheating folks who are paying their premiums. Their plan would let insurance companies continue to deny folks coverage when they get sick. They would do little to make insurance more affordable. They gut the existing consumer protections. They’d put insurance companies back in charge. And some have even filed legislation that would end Medicare as we know it, giving every senior a voucher for health care instead. I refuse to let that happen. We’re not going back. We are going to move forward. That’s why I was elected.

Watch it:

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:41 PM
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1. That the gNOp would and
worse.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:43 PM
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2. Im glad he said this before his deficit commission recommends cutting SS/Medicare
lol
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 05:00 PM
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5. Yep - Oh the irony... nt
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 05:09 PM
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6. Facts:
Here's the President's position on Social Security:

THE PRESIDENT: Yes. Here’s the situation with Social Security. It is actually true that Social Security is not in crisis the way our health care system is in crisis. I mean, when you think about the big entitlement programs, you've got Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid. These are the big programs that take up a huge portion of the federal budget. Social Security is in the best shape of any of these, because basically the cost of Social Security will just go up with ordinary inflation, whereas health care costs are going up much faster than inflation.

It is true that if we continue on the current path with Social Security, if we did nothing on Social Security, that at a certain point, in maybe 20 years or so, what would happen is that you start seeing less money coming into the payroll tax, because the population is getting older so you've got fewer workers, and more people are collecting Social Security so more money is going out, and so the trust fund starts dropping.

And if we did nothing, then somewhere around 2040 what would happen would be a lot of the young people who would start collecting Social Security around then would find that they only got 75 cents on every dollar that they thought they were going to get. Everybody with me so far?
All right. So slowly we're running out of money.

But the fixes that are required for Social Security are not huge, the way they are with Medicare. Medicare, that is a real problem. If we don't get a handle on it, it will bankrupt us. With Social Security, we could make adjustments to the payroll tax. For example -- I'll just give you one example -- right now, your Social Security -- your payroll tax is capped at $109,000. So what that means is, is that -- how many people -- I don't mean to pry into your business, but how many people here make less than $109,000 every year? (Laughter.) All right, this is a pretty rich audience -- a lot of people kept their hands down. (Laughter.) I'm impressed. (Laughter.)

No, look, what it means is basically for 95 percent of Americans, they pay -- every dollar you earn, you pay into the payroll tax. But think about that other 5 percent that's making more than $109,000 a year. Warren Buffett, he pays the payroll tax on the first $109,000 he makes, and then for the other $10 billion -- (laughter) -- he doesn't pay payroll tax.


So -- yes, somebody said, "What?" (Laughter.) Yes, that's right. That's the way it works.

So what we've said is, well, don't we -- doesn't it make sense to maybe have that payroll tax cut off at a higher level, or have people -- maybe you hold people harmless till they make $250,000 a year, but between $250,000 and a million or something, they start paying payroll tax again -- just to make sure that the fund overall is solvent.

So that would just be one example. That's not the only way of fixing it, but if you made a slight adjustment like that, then Social Security would be there well into the future and it would be fine. All right? (Applause.)

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Protecting Social Security

President Obama believes that all seniors should be able to retire with dignity, not just a privileged few. He is committed to protecting Social Security and working in a bipartisan manner to preserve its original purpose as a reliable source of income for American seniors. The President stands firmly opposed to privatization and rejects the notion that the future of hard-working Americans should be left to the fluctuations of financial markets.

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Executive Order -- National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform:

<...>

Sec. 4. Mission. The Commission is charged with identifying policies to improve the fiscal situation in the medium term and to achieve fiscal sustainability over the long run. Specifically, the Commission shall propose recommendations designed to balance the budget, excluding interest payments on the debt, by 2015. This result is projected to stabilize the debt-to-GDP ratio at an acceptable level once the economy recovers. The magnitude and timing of the policy measures necessary to achieve this goal are subject to considerable uncertainty and will depend on the evolution of the economy. In addition, the Commission shall propose recommendations that meaningfully improve the long-run fiscal outlook, including changes to address the growth of entitlement spending and the gap between the projected revenues and expenditures of the Federal Government.

<...>


While making investments for future economic success, President Obama outlined the tough spending cuts to reduce the current deficit, and proposed a freeze in government spending for three years, excluding benefits from Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, and benefits for veterans. He discussed the $20 billion in cuts for programs that are inefficient or have outlived their usefulness, and cuts for worthy programs that must be trimmed accordingly. "We have to do what families across America are doing: Save where we can so that we can afford what we need."

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The President has said nothing about cutting Social Security. The recommendations of the commission must be approved by Congress.



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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:43 PM
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3. The Grand Oil Party (GOP) will privatize everything
they don't believe in government (until something goes wrong)
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:55 PM
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4. I didn't want Social Security privatized when Bush Jr. was president
and I don't want it now.

I'm consistent in my outrage to this degradation of social safety nets.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 05:10 PM
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7. Well, this should make you happy
Protecting Social Security

President Obama believes that all seniors should be able to retire with dignity, not just a privileged few. He is committed to protecting Social Security and working in a bipartisan manner to preserve its original purpose as a reliable source of income for American seniors. The President stands firmly opposed to privatization and rejects the notion that the future of hard-working Americans should be left to the fluctuations of financial markets.

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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:28 AM
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11. actually, no that doesn't make me happy. why? the word "bipartisan"
since we know the GOP wants to privatize SS, using the word bipartisan means it will be like the HCR bill: Obama will first eliminate any liberal ideas in order to appear bipartisan, then the GOP will complain until they get their points in, making it a completely republican entity, and then in the end it WILL be a compromise that makes it privatized.

so no, I'm not happy.

anytime Obama says "bipartisan" it ends up being mostly a republican thing.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 05:10 PM
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8. Booga booga booga
I'm really over the scare tactics. Don't tell me what scary things the other guys are going to do. Tell me the really great things you've done and will do. And then, keep your promises.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 05:19 PM
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10. "Tell me the really great things you've done and will do."
Edited on Tue Jun-08-10 05:20 PM by ProSense
Then people will claim it's all talk and no action or say it isn't good enough.

Actually, I love it when the President or anyone calls out the GOP.

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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 05:19 PM
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9. They found out in a hurry that Repealing Healthcare wasn't a winning strategy
You haven't heard them mention it in a long time
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