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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:36 PM
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Mr. President now is not the time to be talking basketball.
The Gulf of Mexico is dying and you are talking basketball? WTF were you thinking?

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=521...

Obama explores LeBron's options

If LeBron James isn't sure he can win in Cleveland, President Barack Obama thinks there's an opportunity with
his hometown Chicago Bulls.

"You know, like I said, I don't want to meddle," Obama told TNT. "I will say this: Rose, Joakim Noah it's a pretty good core.
You know, you could see LeBron fitting in pretty well there."


Obama was interviewed about a number of basketball subjects by broadcaster Marv Albert on the White House basketball court.
The interview will be shown Tuesday night at 8 p.m. ET.

BTW what a bone headed thing to say too ..... Mr. President you already have the Illinois vote sewn up but Ohio is the important
vote.

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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:39 PM
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1. Fail.
There's nothing wrong with him taking a few minutes out of the day to talk about sports.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:43 PM
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5. It showed a tin ear to both the gravity of the situation in the Gulf and ....
.... could lose Obama @ least 50,000 votes in Ohio in 2012.

It is fine for him to watch, play, and talk basketball ..... I am all for that and I am sure
it helps him deal w/ the stress of being President but to go on the record at this time
was not a smart thing to do.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:47 PM
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12. If people vote because they care what a President says about
a sports team or player then they truly have no brains. But I have never heard on this happening in any election.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:56 PM
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16. Granted sports are trivial in nature but James means millions of $s to
N.E. Ohio and his leaving Cleveland will really hurt an already hurting city. From the
cab drivers, to the restaurants, street vendors, janitors, and so on. James can do what
he wants but for the President to take a public position on it was a stupid thing to do.
Cleveland / Ohio still hurts from the Browns' move.

And yes some people live their lives out through College of Pro Sports and take things
to a strange level.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:59 PM
Response to Reply #16
19. That is up to the teams involved, not the President. He was commenting a fan.
Edited on Mon May-24-10 01:00 PM by Jennicut
I mean, isn't there other things to to be mad at Obama over? Sports, really?
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 03:31 PM
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63. You don't remember the Coakley election in Mass?
Where she accused Boston Red Sox legend Curt Schilling of being a Yankee fan. She lost votes big time because of that.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 04:45 PM
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70. Or when Coakley did not go and shake hands w/ the fans of the ....
.... big outdoor Boston Bruins game saying something like (rough quote)
"Why should I it is cold and I really don't like hockey."
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:24 PM
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30. And there was nothing wrong with Bush going to McCain's birthday party either
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 04:32 PM
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68. It's the modern version of the "fireside chat"
Those folksy chats got many people through the post depression/WWII blues. Basketball is a useful and enjoyable pasttime that helps people cope.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:39 PM
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2. Damn he's gonna lost the Ohio vote for sure
If there is a single person that would change his or her vote for a President based on an off handed, obviously lighthearted comment they can simply go fuck themselves.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:42 PM
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3. OMG! Obama can more then one thing at a time!
Edited on Mon May-24-10 12:42 PM by Jennicut
Whatever will we do?

Bush had no clue what was even going on and had to be told the level of disaster. And then he fought with Gov. Blanco. This is not Katrina, no matter how many people want it to be.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:43 PM
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4. You're wrong. He and his admin. are doing all they can. Do you want Obama to put on a wetsuit and
Edited on Mon May-24-10 01:21 PM by jenmito
swim down to the break to stop it magically?
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:47 PM
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10. Couldn't he just put on his Superman cape and fly down to the break?
It'd be a lot faster! :7
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:49 PM
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13. If only humans could withstand the pressure of water 5000 feet down!
Maybe he can wear this:

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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:52 PM
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14. Oh! oh.. I know what Obama could do!!
Doesn't he have like x-ray vision and lasers and stuff that he can shoot out of his eyes?

How about he just looks into the water and seals the geyser from up above?!!elevens!

Kewl, huh? :)
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:56 PM
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17. He has a secret identity and is lying to us all.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:58 PM
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18. Love it!
:spray:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:47 PM
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11. "He and his admin. are doing al they can."
No they are not this problem needs to be federalized ASAP because BP has been and is still lying their
asses off to the American people along w/ telling the Coast Guard and the EPA what they can do or
what BP will keep doing.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:26 PM
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34. Yes, he IS! He has the federal govt. doing all they can. They don't have the equipment
to do the job which is why BP has to do it with the govt.'s guidance.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:43 PM
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38. I am an ecologist and I sure don't see it.
There are many things that can be done and are not being done.

I see BP having the coast guard tell reporters that if they try to film the oil
hitting the beaches they will be arrested ..... I just heard this morning that BP
told the EPA they will keep using the very toxic chemical oil dispersement
material even thought they were told to stop using it. It turns 10,000,000
gallons of oil into 10,000,000 gallons of oil. Any sort of ecological restoration
will require trying to remove as much of the oil as possible .... spreading it
out or sinking it to the sea floor just makes the problem bigger.

BP has been lying from day one and seems more interested in protecting
the company then the gulf.

The response should be federalized ASAP.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:47 PM
Response to Reply #38
42. The response is federalized as much as it CAN be. Obama "talking basketball" does nothing
Edited on Mon May-24-10 01:48 PM by jenmito
to slow down the response.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #42
45. I never said it slowed things down.
I said now was not the time to be talking b-ball (in public) and that
it hurts him w/ certain voters in Ohio. Many in Cleveland/Ohio still
hurt over the Browns move to MD and James' very real economic impact
to N.E. Ohio are not minor issues.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 02:22 PM
Response to Reply #45
49. So now you're not mentioning the oil leak at all in your reasoning?
Ooooh Kaaay. Sorry, you just proved yourself to be insincere in your OP AND your other posts in this thread.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 02:38 PM
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52. I will type slow because you might be slow on the uptake
things can be complex w/ more than one issue @ stake.

BTW was I being insincere when I worked for then Senator Obama in doing voter protection in
Ohio ..... election day 2008 5:00 AM to 10:30 PM?

My "fave" text that I saved on my phone says:

We just made history. All of
this happened because you
gave your time, talent, and
passion to to this campaign. All
of this happened because of
you. Thanks, Barack

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 02:50 PM
Response to Reply #52
54. I'm not slow at all. Your last post said NOTHING about what the admin. should be doing/
Edited on Mon May-24-10 02:56 PM by jenmito
taking over from BP/etc. In your OP, you said the "Gulf of Mexico is dying" and then proceeded, in other posts, to say what you think the admin. should be doing to fix it. That's what I was referring to.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:44 PM
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6. OMG! I'm clutching my pearls as I write!
...and that's really hard to do and type at the same time.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:45 PM
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7. I'm clutching MY pearls, too1!!!1111ELEVENS
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:03 PM
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22. didn't rahm tell you to keep those damn pearls UNDERNEATH THAT UNIFORM!?!?!11!1 ELEVENS!
Edited on Mon May-24-10 01:03 PM by dionysus
jesus now they'll know how wealthy you are!!11!
:hi:
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:05 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. Well, I had to expose them in order to clutch them, dammit!!!
What do men clutch in outrage? Don't answer that. :rofl:
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:45 PM
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8. Outrage dupe
I think this is the second time. Could be the third.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:46 PM
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9. Outrage dupe continuation of a previously-locked thread on page 1. nt
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:55 PM
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15. someday we will have a president who doesn't care about sports
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:01 PM
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20. We should make sure the POTUS NEVER talks
about anything that isn't the crisis of the day.

And make sure that he is all over the outrage of the day-- EVERY SINGLE day.

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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:02 PM
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21. manufactured outrage of the day huh. nt.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:06 PM
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24. -1.
This is the biggest joke of a post that I've read here in quite some time, and that is saying a lot.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:50 PM
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43. Here is a joke .... the oceans make 50% of the world's O2


Essentially in the Gulf we have an unlimited source of toxins that has the potential
to cause ecological devastation on a huge scale.

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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 03:24 PM
Response to Reply #43
61. Yeah, because all of that is going to change in the 10 or so minutes Obama talks about sports.
Get real.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:08 PM
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25. Hey look, the President is capable of doing more than one thing at a time.
Would you prefer he stop eating, tear his hair out and rend his garments 24/7?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:09 PM
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26. Presidential hobbies
Help to ensure the populace that the President is a true Merican and is distracted by stupid shit as easily as the rest of us.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:14 PM
Response to Reply #26
27. same as presidential religion
imho.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #27
28. Of course
Once upon a time we used to want to elect people better than us. Now we won't people who are as dumb as the rest of the population so the people in charge have to pretend to be "average joes"

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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:28 PM
Response to Reply #28
35. There is nothing wrong with liking sports or disliking them.
I think the President is a genuine fan.
I like basketball, football, baseball. Went to games with my Dad, good bonding time with him. That is what sports means to me, brings back good memories of my Dad taking me to Yankee Stadium at 12 years old. And I was a girl, but he didn't treat me like I wouldn't understand any of it.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #35
41. I could care less if he was a talking bear
As long as he was an effective talking bear.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:22 PM
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29. Skinner can I have my donation back?
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #29
55. self-deleted. n/t
Edited on Mon May-24-10 03:02 PM by Political Tiger
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #29
57. Just donate more and give a star to some deserving soul.
:hi:

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tranche Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:25 PM
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31. I LOVE THIS WEB SITE!
It gets more ridiculous by the day. It's really becoming my number one entertainment option. Well, that and watching monkeys fling shit at each other.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:25 PM
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32. Oh, give it a rest
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:25 PM
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33. Oh come on now! If Bush talked basketball while NOLA drowned, everyone here would be just FINE w/it!
Wouldn't they?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:40 PM
Response to Reply #33
37. You don't see a difference between being unaware that hundreds or thousands of Americans are
Edited on Mon May-24-10 01:41 PM by jenmito
dying and an oil leak that the govt. has been dealing with from the very first hours? :eyes:
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:44 PM
Response to Reply #37
39. Some apparently don't....
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #39
40. It's the same "some" who
fault Obama for anything and everything regardless of the facts.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #40
46. i worked for Obama in Ohio in 2008 as legal observer to make ....
.... protect the rights of the voters and to make sure the votes were counted too.*

I am hardly a person who blames Obama for everything. I am very proud to have him
as my President.


* BTW in my work I made sure that all the voters who were forced to vote a provisional
ballot gave us their names and phone #s ..... after the election when the lists we put
together and with some follow up work we able to get one more democrat elected to
the U.S. House ..... Mary Jo Kilroy
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #46
50. Great, but you didn't address my post #37 at all. My comment was re: post/poster #33. n/t
Edited on Mon May-24-10 02:29 PM by jenmito
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 11:25 PM
Response to Reply #37
77. Got it. You won't answer the question.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #33
60. It's not the same
There were things the government could do in that case.
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:30 PM
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36. Have you stopped...
Watching your favorite programs, listening to music, taking a bath, eating, sleeping, crapping etc, etc
because of the oil spill. I HAVENT.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #36
62. EXCELLENT VIEWPOINT. touche. We need to stop these endless posts.
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 01:53 PM
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44. Wow. Really?
:eyes:
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 02:14 PM
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47. Soldiers are dying in Iraq and Afghanistan. Did you dare SMILE this weekend?
Really, that's what we're getting to.

:wtf:

If one has to halt the rest of one's life because tragedy happens somewhere else in the world, you might as well just hang it up and stop living. Life happens.

Did the Obama girls have a fun weekend? How could POTUS and FLOTUS have let that happen??

:crazy:
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CBR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 02:17 PM
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48. AJNTSA. nt
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 02:28 PM
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51. Because Obama doesn't have the mental capacity to multitask.
Edited on Mon May-24-10 02:29 PM by Starbucks Anarchist
:eyes:

Why, I bet he's even talked to his *family* at some point! Why won't he focus on the oil spill? :cry:
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 02:46 PM
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53. That's right. He should be talking about baseball instead......
:sarcasm:
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 02:56 PM
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56. A thread on this same subject was locked as flamebait. It's still on page 1.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 03:12 PM
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58. The President shouldn't eat until the hole is plugged!!!!!
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 03:16 PM
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59. Then no one else should talk about it either
And no one else should do anything else, either, but sit on the internet and make posts about it.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 03:32 PM
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64. If Obama hadn't given an interview on basketball, the world would be fixed, dammit!
We'd have utopia by now! The NERVE of him. :tinfoilhat:
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 03:36 PM
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65. It's not the time for any of the business-as-usual stuff he's been doing...
It's astounding how clueless the prez is about this.
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 03:40 PM
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66. BTW: The Gulf of Mexico is NOT dying!
A little less histrionics and a lot more common sense is what's need in this discussion!
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 04:42 PM
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69. large sections are dying right now
the wetlands and estuaries that are being hit w/ the oil can longer serve their prior ecological functions
these areas are the "nurseries" for much of the ocean life.

the areas of sea floor underneath the large plumes of deep oil show thousands and thousands of dead and dying
"things"

scientists have found 30% reductions of O2 in the water in many places ..... add that to the seasonal hypoxic zone and you have
added one more ecological insult to the sustainability of the gulf ..... lower O2 = more dead things .... the more dead things in the
water then the more demand on O2


and when that oil hits the coral reefs off the Florida Keys it will not be pretty

***********

God knows how many billions if not trillions of gallons of oil are in that formation that BP tapped into

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 05:05 PM
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74. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator.
 
slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 03:56 PM
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67. A basketball is a little too small to plug that 21-inch pipe, but it would be a good start
:nuke:
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NHDEMFORLIFE Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 04:48 PM
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71. Will anyone truly connect basketball and the oil spill?
Really? Someone out there is going to see President Obama engaging in a few minutes of harmless sports gab and be think, "Good God, I can't believe he is sitting there talking about basketball and oil leak hasn't been plugged? ... IMPEACH NOW!"
And people in Ohio are so shallow that they will vote Republican because a Bulls fan wants His Lordship, LeBron James, to sign with Chicago?
Really?
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 04:49 PM
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72. Actually, playoffs is exactly the right time to talk basketball!
Is he allowed to eat while the oil is still spewing? What about smiling . . . is that allowed? Can he pet the dog?

Why don't you make a list of things he's allowed to do and forward it to the White House so they don't offend you.



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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 05:03 PM
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73. As longer as he does not mention
Amare Stoudemire :rofl:
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 08:05 PM
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75. -
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O is 44 Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 09:43 PM
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76. I'm looking forward to this interview, sorry you disagree n/t
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