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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 10:46 PM
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Wanna know where the FEMA Concentration Camps talking point come from?
I will tell you....RONNIE REAGANS FEMA APPOINTEE Louis Giuffrida!! That's right folks and here's a little history lesson to throw back in teabaggers faces....that's right Ronnie Reagan approved of concentration camps on U.S. for American citizens who were dissenters.

Reagan the guy they want to put on the $50.00 bill well he signed a top secret national security directive (NSDD 26) in 1982 that effectively linked FEMA with the military and the National Security Council (NSC).

In 1985, President Reagan signed National Security Decision Directive 188, one of a series of directives that authorized continued planning for COG by a private parallel government. (Halliburton comes to mind here)

Remember during the previous * years when protesters were held in fenced in areas because they were protesting?

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FEMA's precursor was the California Specialized Training Institute, a counterterrorism training center started by then-Governor Ronald Reagan in 1971. Reagan inaugurated the idea of utilizing the military and law enforcement to combat dissent. He hired retired National Guard General Louis O. Giuffrida to design Operation Cable Splicer. The Cable Splicer plans were martial law proposals to legitimize the arrest and detention of anti-Vietnam war activists and other political dissidents.
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http://news.ncmonline.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=eed74d9d44c30493706fe03f4c9b3a77

I am actually reading for a class and came across this interesting tidbit....
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:09 PM
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1. You left out this choice quote
Two books, James Mann's "Rise of the Vulcans" and James Bamford's "A Pretext for War," have revealed that in the 1980s this parallel structure, operating outside normal government channels, included the then-head of G. D. Searle and Co., Donald Rumsfeld, and then-Congressman from Wyoming Dick Cheney.

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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:12 PM
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2. Well, there it is.
Thanks for that contribution.

Recommending the OP.

NYC_SKP
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 08:36 AM
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7. I knew Shoot Em In The Face and Red Rummey would be in on that action somewhere.
Thanks for confirmation. :hi:
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:22 PM
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3. Here's a good reference document from SourceWatch on it:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Operation_Cable_Splicer

Operation Cable Splicer is a subprogram of the Rex 84 Program, which "was established on the reasoning that if a 'mass exodus' of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons."

Operation Cable Splicer is "the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation."

.........

There is a lot more at the link!


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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 12:49 AM
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4. Insurrection Act
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/10/usc_sup_01_10_10_A_20_I_30_15.html

TITLE 10 > Subtitle A > PART I > CHAPTER 15
CHAPTER 15—INSURRECTION

§ 331. Federal aid for State governments
§ 332. Use of militia and armed forces to enforce Federal authority
§ 333. Interference with State and Federal law
§ 334. Proclamation to disperse
§ 335. Guam and Virgin Islands included as “State”
<§ 336. Repealed.>
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 05:03 AM
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5. K & R for those links!
I'll go through them later.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 06:45 AM
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6. More on FEMA camps at Southern Poverty Law Center
From their Spring 2010 Intelligence Report:


FEMA camp stories have been around a long time. Almost three decades ago, back in 1982, a newsletter of the extreme-right and anti-Semitic Posse Comitatus warned that “hardcore Patriots” would be imprisoned in FEMA detention camps. Some versions during the militia heyday of the 1990s had urban street gangs like the Bloods and the Crips, rather than domestic or foreign troops, rounding up antigovernment patriots.

Conspiracy theorists often point to a front-page story in The Miami Herald back in 1987 as proof that, in the words of one of them, “FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations.” . . . .

***

The plan was written for President Ronald Reagan in case he ever wanted to take such action. The newspaper also obtained a copy of a FEMA official’s 1982 memo that it reported was similar to a paper then-FEMA director Louis Guiffrida had written 12 years earlier. In the 1970 document, Guiffrida reportedly advocated martial law in case of a national uprising by black militants and the transferring of at least 21 million “American Negroes” to “assembly centers or relocations camps.”

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http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/spring/fear-of-fema
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 05:04 PM
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8. Oooh! I want a red dot!
If they shoot me immediately, that means I'm the baddest mofo in town, right?
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 10:53 PM
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9. K&R n/t
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 11:00 PM
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10. Uhm, it's worth remembering that the US rounded up Native Americans, and Japanese...
I'm thinking the recurring talking point is out of collective guilt being suppressed.
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