Got a call from my Army Ranger son. He and his troops saw Obama.
I wanted to hear him bust with pride, telling me that seeing his President -- this President -- had made an impression on him.
Instead, he said: We were assembled there...the 1st Ranger Battalion, one of only 3 Ranger Battalions in existence (and of course he listed them). And the President gave us a nonchalant wave as he rode past us. Not more than a glance and a little wave. Like he didn't recognize who we were, like he didn't care.
That from my son who is getting ready to be deployed yet again into harms way -- his second tour in Afganistan, third since he joined.
15. I was really expecting him to say how great it was to see the President!
I am very proud of my son. He is amazing. And the joining the Rangers is damn crazy thing to do...but he did it because he thinks the Army needs people like him, smart, strong, brave and .... special. (I know that everyone reading says "oh yeah, all our kids are special" but I've got 5 special kids and this one? He's SPECIAL. He's already earning recognition from the higher ups and is selected for leadership positions among the leaders.)
He's proud of his service and I guess what makes this all the more poignant is that last night, he called to go over his last wishes. In case of the unthinkable. DAMNIT!!!
And why couldn't my President....the one I proudly voted for.....make my son proud by paying more than one half second's notice to the fact that he was passing an assemblage of some the finest and bravest young men in this country's armed services? I know he's busy. I know there are pressing matters to attend to. But god damn. These men are dying on his orders...and he could at least make them feel noticed, couldn't he?
68. Maybe he was pre-occupied, because I don't think he would
purposely diss them. Obama's got a pretty full plate.
But I understand their disappointment, I would've been too.
Much respect and many, many thank yous to your son and his sacrifice.
You always write so beautifully and with such wisdom, sojourner, have you thought of writing to the President? At least make him aware. Sometimes we just don't know how our behavior effects those around us.
46. so, you're telling me that you can't tolerate hearing an honest comment about an experience?
my son is the one relating his feelings. they are valid - to me at least - and more so because of what he is doing with his life. he intends to help other young soldiers by being as good a leader and soldier as he can be. i am a progressive and sure, i want my son to be favorably impressed by presidential actions. sorry if that is a problem for you. well actually i don't give a flip what you think, but it does make me plenty angry to read the sorts of comments you and some others have written. this ISN'T freerepublic and actually they were exactly as you describe yourself during bush and co. they were 100% behind him no matter what he did. they would not tolerate a word of dissent, nor hear a single thought that didn't conform to the "message". so in that respect - might as well BE at freerepublic.
75. You should have seen the thread where I posted about my 7 year old nephew
Edited on Thu Mar-04-10 02:08 AM by FrenchieCat
Who survived a bout of stage 3-4 Cancer without Insurance, by the grace of St. Jude....and how many people unrecced that thread. Had pics of him in it and everything, and some folks still didn't give a shit. At the end, I requested the thread to be locked.
Don't bother. I posted something that my kid shared and you
and others like you want to trash him. I don't know where you think you're getting with your nastiness, but you're sure as hell pissing me off. My son is a pretty sensitive and intelligent (read discerning) young man. Whatever he himself observed, he observed it with his own eyes, and he felt bad about it. That, for a mom who lines up fairly hard left and progressive is a disappointment.
Save your razor sharp wit for some worthy opponent. I'm just the mom of a kid who saw someone who his mom hopes he will respect and felt disrespected himself. I posted it because it matters; whether you like it or not, I believe it matters.
26. I am not here to dis President Obama or compare him to the Bush Fu** Wads,
Edited on Wed Mar-03-10 10:18 PM by LakeSamish706
but I say that he is not standing true to his promises of; "Change you can believe in" either. I have not seen much about his leadership or policies that separate him from Corporations.
Edited to say:
As I posted in a thread that was locked, I donated, voted and totally supported President Obama in both the Primary and General, but am very disappointed in a number of things that he has done/not done.
17. where the hell do you come from? I posted a civil, polite comment
that originates from what my kid said about how he felt. I think it's important. I don't care if you don't like it. I don't think my son, or I deserve or have earned the shitty comments you and others like you are making. I will wish upon you the same fate as you wish upon others, threefold.
22. I'm sorry that your son was so disappointed.......
although he can just join the long line of folks disappointed that this President is not perfect.
It is just a shame that this President could only think of waving without getting visibly excited by those watching him, and certainly there would be no reason for him to be pre-occupied about any other matters beyond not only waving, but waving with feelings!...especially since this President could have stopped his moving car that he was riding in, jog on over to where your son and others had gathered, and shake hands and shoot the breeze for a couple of minutes. I'm sure that since this must have been on an Army base, there would have been no need for security clearance, since we all know how safe Army Bases are these days! I know if I had gathered somewhere where the President was and he didn't wave with feelings, or stop for me, and get out of his car I'd be pissed too! Especially if my Mom was with me....cause she is certainly one of a kind!
But this is a question of a wave not being felt as enough. I understand someone's impression, but in the end, it is about what this President will do for this country that should count, not some perceived personal slight. It reminds me of folks who might be in a large crowd wanting to shake the President's hand, and not get that chance, and then being upset at the President, because that person volunteered and worked on the campaign. I think that if one forms judgement about an individual based on a fleeting moment such as this, we are in trouble.
As for the son enlisting and doing all of those tours of duty, I appreciate his sacrifice, and to be honest, I believe that the President does as well, even if he didn't demonstrate that in a manner that Sojouner's son found adequate.
49. hey...this isn't a presidential admiration society board, nor was my comment meant to
slander the president. i would not dissuade anyone from supporting Obama. I still support him as president myself. But a young soldier's thoughts are what they are and I felt moved to share them. Precisely because they were so disappointing for him, and for different reasons, for me. it's fair to recognize our soldiers and what they are experiencing is it not? this wasn't a brainwashing message from stars and stripes. it was my son. and someone here recommended a letter to the WH which I intend to write. Obama should know how much little things mean to the young men who are ready to sacrifice all in service to the country.
52. jeepers it is getting scary here. maybe he could have given them a good looking over, a nod and a
salute? i dunno. i don't think anybody expected any of what you describe. son said it was a really slight, quick wave and nothing more. said it was "dismissive". or obviously, felt that way to them. i don't even know what he expected. i just know i felt saddened to hear his comment and how he felt about it.
33. My neice did 4 tours of duty in Iraq and never even saw the president
or heard from him. I have a son and a nephew who are also in the military and haven't seen this president either.
I'm sorry your son felt slighted, but he is an adult. He'll be fine.
Obama has done more for the our troops than any president in a very long time. I'm sure he was just preoccupied and did not mean it as a slight to your son.
I find these stories annoying because they are attempt to try to make the president look like he doesn't care about the troops when, in reality, the issue is a personal one with how your son perceived the situation. I got too many emails like this from right wingers in my family not to wonder about what the purpose is.
You could have just as easily said that my son was disappointed because he didn't get to shake the presidents hand, but you have chosen to make it appear as though Obama is insensitive and doesn't care about the troops. You could handle it better if you accepted that he is a busy man and that's all there is to it instead of acting like your son and his Battalion is more significant than the 10's of thousands of troops who have been on 4 or 5 tours of duty and haven't even seen either president, ever.
34. He gave them a wave from his motorcade as it was driving by.
Edited on Wed Mar-03-10 10:39 PM by Connie_Corleone
Apparently, there was no planned stop there. Where was he going? Where was he coming from?
It's not like he hasn't visited with troops before. So to say it was like he didn't care is taking too much meaning from a wave in a car. If he really didn't care, he wouldn't have acknowledged their presence at all.
You might be expressing you and your son's disappointment, but it reads like one of those viral rightwing emails.
36. Thank your son for his service. Sorry for all the rude comments, especially the ones
that imply your son was lying. I don't think those were at all necessary.
It would have been nice if he had stopped, gotten out of his car, and went over to the battalion. It is entirely possible that he was distracted. He does have a lot on his plate after all. Still, a little more recognition for those going into harm's way would have been a nice gesture from the Commander in Chief. I'm sure it would have done WORLDS of good for morale.
58. these were my thoughts actually --- thanks for proving that someone can actually
understand what i was saying. i believe the president has a lot on his plate and is extremely busy. but i also feel that he could have done some slight thing that would make the guys feel that their commander in chief did recognize them and their sacrifice. but more than anything is how it made me feel to hear son say this. he really felt disrespected. wonder what i'm supposed to say to counter that?
57. that is so coool! thanks! -- it was when motorcade passed thru after his ARRIVAL at Hunter.
no doubt security was tight. son is extremely proud of the Ranger Regiment. no doubt he wanted something more than what looked like just a little wave. maybe a big wave? a big smile? a few nods of the presidential head? whatever he expected he didn't get. that is all i wanted to say, and maybe president could give a little more thought to how he responds to or greets soldiers? i don't know. i just hated hearing him say that he felt that the president didn't give them any respect as he drove by them. maybe my son has it wrong. the troops are there to respect the president and they ought not expect anything from him or from us. maybe........
66. y'know...i get off work at 6. i check the news and i check in here.
sometimes i feel the urge to post. sometimes it is something big. sometimes not. most of the time i'm content to peruse the writings of others. i don't claim any blog audience and i don't even want one. i don't claim to be a big bad reporter. i am just a humble person with some humble thoughts that i once in a while share here. used to, anyway.
i truly appreciate the post of the video regardless of what others here have to say about what i've posted. didn't look at post 43 yet but i will. thanks again.
Being that he's one person. Dear god, the shit that's being expected of this one human being. This is just ridiculous, really. You know what your son and our troops deserved? More Americans getting off their fat, apathetic, xenophobic, racist, spoiled, whiny, ignorant asses BEFORE Bush sent them to die, but Noooo, Obama didn't fucking wave at him, so he's a callous shithead. I did what I could to stop it while people slamming Obama right now on DU did absolutely nothing. Let's forget the piece of shit who used our troops as a prop and murdered thousands of them in cold blood. It's much easier to slam Obama. You know, he's black, so it's okay. Really. That's what it's come down to. Someone fucking shoot me. This country and its people are unbelievable.
65. Umm, Obama used the troops as props at West Point
Edited on Thu Mar-04-10 12:14 AM by jonnyblitz
when he gave his afghan war escalation speech. I don't know how you can go on and on about Bush then act like Obama is doing anything that much differently when he is ESCALATING a fucking war. you are seriously DELUDED and need to get the FUCK over youself. How in HELL do you know what people are and are NOT doing to stop the war? do you think YOU are the only one from DU who went out and protested it? you playing the race card on this issue shows how desperate you are. Do you think Obama is your personal boyfriend or something" what in HELL is WRONG with you? jesus christ. I cannot BELIEVE this thread.
I'm sorry for your sons disappointment and I'm sorry he and the other men were treated in this manner. I am also sorry you were treated the way you were when you posted your thread about him. People like this are not worthy to polish his boots. I am proud of your son and the sacrifice he is making for our country. I am also proud of you and thank you for bringing him up to serve and protect his country.
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