The difference between me and the those on the other side is pretty simple.

[Peacetrain]

I am proud of who I helped get into the White House. I am proud of my Democratic elected officials for the most part. (We are talking human beings here, and there is no way that you do not get the occasional screw up.. human nature)

But I am proud of what we stand for, our core beliefs. We do not have to turn to a place that scrapes the scabs off of some innate fears and inabilities to accept others as who they are. The republicnas are playing to a set of inferiority complexes in some people. The fear they are not as good and worthy as they try and proclaim themselves.

I wake up every day, knowing there is much work to do, but being at peace with my party and what we stand for.

I cannot imagine the personal little hells the Palins, Limbaughs, Boehners, etc live in.

[Bluerthanblue]

1. ~beautiful

k&R

:grouphug:

[Bobbie Jo]

2. Recommended.

:kick:

[brand404]

3. I just wish most party members weren't influenced by Lobby Money.

Genuine things for the people would actually get done instead of being watered down or dropped entirely if campaign finance reform were taken seriously.
I like the democrtatic ideals but it is clear to me that it is just something they say during campaign season but when they get to WH they look the other way for lobbyist cash. The WH is the biggest hypocrite especially when it comes to healthcare reform.

[givemebackmycountry]

4. Nice post P-Train

I especially like your closing line.

:toast:

[Better Today]

5. Then I'm just going to guess that

you are not one of the millions of Democratic supporters who find that after a year of a hard fought election, find themselves a year later still unemployed, uninsured, in or nearing foreclosure, in or nearing bankruptcy.

Lucky you, but get down off your high horse about those that are not in such a cushy place as you perceive yourself to be, and have some compassion for those whose lives are falling further and further into the crapper while those you adore get nothing done for the poor, the middle class, the unemployed, the uninsured, but have done plenty to line the pockets and egos of the rich, the corporations, and the war criminals.

[DisgustedInMN]

8. I'm with you...

.. brother or sister...

.. down here under the bus where we got thrown when we actually asked Mr YesWeCan to do what he promised.

[Go2Peace]

9. I don't understand the subtle "get in line" we often see here

And the often not subtle.

Let's think about history: Roosevelt got it from all sides, including from Democrats. And he WELCOMED it! He understood how the process works, and how Democracy works.

It is natural, and in fact PRODUCTIVE for people to get riled up and force their party to change. Those who want to force everyone (subtly or outwardly) are SUBVERTING the Democratic process and it's power! They just DON'T GET IT. Democracy is sloppy. We can all do the Kumbiya thing when half the country is not underwater.

This movement was supposed to be about change, but all the beltway and it's supporters want to do is fight change and people who are demanding that change in the party.

The ones who "need to get in line" are our party elected officials. How that has been manipulated into this idea that people have to get in line with the party positions is only another sign of how effective the corporatist propaganda is. We will struggle with getting anything done until we recognize that.

Think "enabling" behaviors. We have to stop that system straight in it's tracks.

[paulk]

17. +1

[Peacetrain]

10. Well guess again.. you certainly are 100% wrong with your ASSumptions about me

Talk about being on a damn high horse.. where do you get off?

[Better Today]

11. If I am wrong about my guesses, then I can't even use the terminology

I would like to use for your blind and foolish support of a team that isn't up to its promises.

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[gratefultobelib]

6. Exactly, Peacetrain. Thus my username!

[IndianaGreen]

7. Core beliefs? Is universal health care as a fundamental human right part of them?

My core beliefs include universal health care as a fundamental human right, and the for-profit health system runs counter to that even under Obama's HCR.

Anti-imperialism is also part of my core beliefs. Strike out Iraq and Afghanistan, and military adventurism elsewhere on the globe, if you truly oppose imperialism.

We speak of freedom and democracy in America, but as we have been finding out since the stolen election in 2000 and PATRIOT Act in 2001, freedom and democracy are hollow slogans.

Full equality for LGBT Americans is also part of my core beliefs. "Separate but equal" schemes such as civil unions, or denying people a marriage or professional license, a job, credit, or place to live on account of one's sexual orientation or gender identity, is a violation of those core beliefs.

[NJmaverick]

13. K&R

[rufus dog]

14. Nice job - and for those who say there is no difference between the Parties

You need to watch the Health Care Summit.

There is a huge difference in Core Beliefs.

Dems can understand that even though it might not directly impact them or their own immediate family, there are issues that impact other Americans, our basic health, security, and economic well being.

Repubs believe that any tax dollar taken from them that doesn't directly and demonstrably help them is wasted money and is better managed by the "free" market.

[Better Today]

15. I don't read anyone here as saying there is no difference in the

platforms of the two parties. What I read is that many of us recognize that the platforms are illusory to the actual outcomes as seen to date. Though Dems claim to be of and for the middle class and needy, claim to be for peace and accountability, claim to be for taxing the rich and large corps. . . their actions belie their platforms.

[depakid]

16. There's also a more objective difference: honesty and integrity

Democrats sometimes have them- Republicans almost never do.

[Cha]

18. Excellent Peactrain..I don't know

what took me so long to read it.

Actually, I do..I was really sleepy yesterday when I got home from work.

[madamesilverspurs]

19. Agree! n/t