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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 11:13 AM
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Poll question: Do you support or oppose the President's health care reform proposal?
Edited on Mon Feb-22-10 11:16 AM by jefferson_dem
Given what you know now, do you support or oppose the President's health care reform proposal?

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 11:15 AM
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1. You may want to change that title...
...confusing typo.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 11:17 AM
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2. Ooops...
Thanks for pointing that out.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 11:50 AM
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3. Kick. NT
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Change Happens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 11:57 AM
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4. I love it..............nt
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:04 PM
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5. Mandates And No Public Option
The exact opposite of what he campaigned on.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:23 PM
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10. And taxes on the middle class, not on top earners (as he promised in the campaign).

Still, I voted "I don't know", for the record. I haven't read this new proposal yet, so I don't know how much of an improvement from the (unacceptable) Senate bill it is.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:06 PM
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6. P u b l i c ... O p t i o n ... need I say more?
Edited on Mon Feb-22-10 12:06 PM by SnoopDog
Sure - Lower the Medicare age to zero.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:07 PM
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7. What is in the proposal?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:09 PM
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8. Info
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:25 PM
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12. Thank you! That was actually a useful link.
(For once. :P )
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:32 PM
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17. You say it "eliminates Stupak" but it doesn't elimnate the Senate deal on abortion.
Even the "compromise" is a net loss from what we have now...
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:18 PM
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9. Very hard to say
It isn't worth all the effort being expended, and I'm dubious how serious he is with it. Most see it as a bit of a strategy more than a real proposal. It could be a slight improvement on the status quo, although the mandatory part really bugs me. Forcing folks to buy insurance they probably won't be able to afford to use doesn't seem like a step forward to me. Without a public option I'm afraid that in the long term it will be a net sum loss. And it will entrench the insurance companies within our government.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:24 PM
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11. +1
I will be very discouraged if Democrats aren't able to at least enact a weak version of a public option as contained in the House Bill, with commanding majorities in both Houses of Congress and a Democratic President.
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 12:40 PM
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13. why would i support mandates without even a public option? (n/t)
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:17 PM
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14. mandated insurance purchases, no public option-- no way....
This is more welfare for wealthy megabiz corporations.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 10:45 PM
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23. Exactly!
Nothing to support.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:19 PM
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15. Disappointed that PO is not included, but still support it.
:hi:
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:27 PM
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16. I want Medicare E - medicare for everyone.
But this proposal makes a big step in asserting the governments role in the general health of its citizens. It may well be a watershed moment signaling the eventual end of for-profit health care in America. The idea that some rake in millions off the medical misfortunes of many is just plain sick.

I'll take this as a good start - and keep working for a day when health care is a fundamental right in our country.
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:34 PM
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18. So do I - but that just ain't in the cards right now.
This IS a step in the right direction, tho.
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lsewpershad Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 03:15 PM
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19. Support with a public option
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 03:17 PM
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20. Get this in place and BUILD ... rather than get nothing AGAIN like 93!!!!!!!
Or do we just lose seats in 2010 for TRYING, and then wait another 15 years or more????
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 09:00 PM
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21. That's the plan.
:thumbsup:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 09:31 PM
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22. There's every likelihood of a loss with unpopular mandates and health benefits taxes
So that's really a false choice.

On the other hand, the administration and congress have backed themselves into a corner, so it could well be that damage control is the best that they're willing or able to manage at this point.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 07:07 AM
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24. If they pass nothing, they will be attacked as if they had anyway ... AND ...
Edited on Tue Feb-23-10 07:08 AM by JoePhilly
By passing nothing, the GOP will be able to make outrageous claims about what the bill WOULD HAVE BEEN.

The GOP will be able to invent any crazy lie and make it stick because there will be nothing concrete for the Dems to point to.

And as I said, if that happens, the Dems will get crushed, and we'll get nothing.

Their only chance is to pass something so that the debate on heath care is GROUNDED.

And ... I'd love to see GOP members explain how they are against preventing insurers from dropping those who get sick, or those with pre-existing conditions.

(edit:typo)
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 07:37 AM
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25. They are going to be "attacked" regardless
That is politics, no one gives a shit about Health Insurance when the economy is still collapsing and the government gave lots of free money to Wall Street.

I swear, people are living in some sort of alternative reality.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 08:46 PM
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32. Exactly, might as well pass something REAL and then fight over that!!
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 08:28 AM
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26. His proposal discriminates against my family, of course.
If it is not bigoted, it is not Barack, you know. Add the mandated purchase of worthless and expensive Insurance products designed not for wellness of the participant but for the profits of the providers, and you get a big steaming pile of vile.
This President used to say that mandates were a horrible joke, and would only be needed if the Insurance was not a good value, and not affordable. He mocked all those who supported mandates, derided the very thought of them.
He also said that any bill he signed would have to contain a public option.

For a man who claims his religion dictates his bigotry, it is funny that his religion does not seem to influence him to speak honestly, or directly. Funny as in hypocritical beyond all imagination.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 11:38 AM
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27. It's also amazing to see Obama support mandates,
when he saw what unregulated, for-profit insurance mafiosi did to his mother regarding her illness.


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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 01:22 PM
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28. Public Option - More than 62% in this country want it, demand it & need it!
Edited on Tue Feb-23-10 01:28 PM by GreenTea
Only way to stop the insurance corporations huge profits on peoples health care needs, millions of too sick (i.e., too expensive, for insurance corporations hurts their profit margin) people get tossed off or can't afford insurance companies raised premiums, while insurance industry under insures others and then there's no insurance for more than 50 million others!

WE WANT A PUBLIC OPTION!!
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 02:23 PM
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29. Support it. But with those poll numbers here on DU of all places, there's no chance it will pass.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 02:59 PM
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30. my local paper has polls, usually they go 60/40 in favor of neo-cons
the "obama hcr" went 75/25 against obama..
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 04:41 PM
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31. Yes, the public is quite strongly against it. My point though, is that if it barely passes here,
that's not good.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:18 PM
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33. I oppose mandates & support the public option, putting me in opposition to Obama's latest bullshit.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:19 PM
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34. I Support A Public Option And Do Not Support A Mandate, So The Answer is Oppose (nt)
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