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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:35 PM
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Not an apologist but an apology
I'm not going to offer an explanation for a 3-year freeze.

Instead, I'm going to offer an apology to some people here whom I said were wrong about Obama because you may in fact have been right.

:grr:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:36 PM
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1. thank you
you're alright CreekDog; yes INDEED
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:37 PM
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2. Love your avatar. nt
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:41 PM
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3. Uh oh. They've gotten to CreekDog.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:54 PM
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4. No, more like this:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:55 PM
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5. Yeah they have
I'm a Democrat. Throw money at social problems and throw money at poverty.

I didn't get mad when we didn't get that.

But what we are getting is altogether something different.

And the apparent lack of desire to close the deal on healthcare (flawed as it is) made me withhold my usual benefit of the doubt.

:pals:
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:02 PM
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6. Anger's a good thing when it's turned into action...
So, let's get active, let's get even.

Obama said he couldn't do it alone, and I haven't forgotten.

It's turning out to be a bigger battle than I'd expected.

We have to push against members of congress, in our own fucking party!

We have to buy differently, boycott with conviction, do our homework.

And, most of all, we have to stay energized, energize others, and work together as much as we can.

:toast:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:09 PM
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8. Yes
Looks like I have to write my congressperson, Jackie Speier and ask her to oppose Obama's 3-year spending freeze.

Yikes.

And other good things as you suggest.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:08 PM
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7. Don't worry it's just marketing
One of those periodic "let's cut out waste in government" things that comes along every once in a while, whoever is president. It's just being called a spending freeze" because that's what they think the voters want to hear this time around.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:20 PM
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10. Cut waste and shift budgets around.
Clinton consistently cut spending under various names to balance the budget.
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:20 PM
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9. Please don't give them the satisfaction.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:21 PM
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11. Well I'm going to, unless that spending freeze has a hole in it that's a mile wide and deep
:hi:
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:24 PM
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12. suit yourself....*smh*
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:25 PM
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13. It's probably a smokescreen, but yeah I'll be annoyed
if it isn't.

Being a research scientist,and depending on NIH and NSF grants, it could also kick my ass. But maybe it's nothing.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:26 PM
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14. Shouldn't you know what this all entails
before not wanting it?

You don't seem one to react based on ignorance..... :shrug:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:31 PM
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15. I understand an overall discretionary spending freeze too well unfortunately
Like I said in a post in another thread, it's 1% better if they boost some programs that help people at the expense of ones that don't.

But after years of discretionary funding not keeping pace with inflation and outright cuts to many agencies, there just isn't enough to go around and we have a nation in dire need.

I don't know what else I could find out that would make all this okay.

And also, I used to give Obama the benefit of the doubt on a lot of things --but his backing away from health care in the aftermath of the MA election was a dealbreaker for me. No more benefit of the doubt.

And then comes this.

It's hard for me. Today I was thinking of posting how we are really all on the same side and to look to this board's postings on 11/4/2008.

But after this, I just didn't feel like it.

:(
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:08 PM
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16. I don't want to be right
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