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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:48 PM
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Obama: I’d rather be ‘really good one-term president’ than ‘mediocre two-term president.’

Obama: I’d rather be ‘really good one-term president’ than ‘mediocre two-term president.’

In an interview with ABC’s Diane Sawyer that will be aired tonight, President Obama said he will not back off his agenda despite the political hazards that might lie ahead:

“I’d rather be a really good one-term president than a mediocre two-term president,” he told ABC’s “World News” anchor Diane Sawyer in an exclusive interview today. <…>

“You know, there is a tendency in Washington to believe our job description, of elected officials, is to get reelected. That’s not our job description,” Obama said. “Our job description is to solve problems and to help people.”

Seated across from Sawyer in the White House, the president added, “I don’t want to look back on my time here and say to myself all I was interested in was nurturing my own popularity.”

Read the full transcript here.



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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:49 PM
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1. 0 for 2
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:44 PM
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43. Better get the "four more years" chant warmed up.
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Luciferous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:45 PM
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109. +1
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 09:12 PM
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111. +1
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:50 PM
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2. I'd rather the same thing. So, when does he begin?
He has three years left to make up for the first year he pissed away completely.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:57 PM
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10. He didn't piss anything away.
What he did was piss off some people who had delusions of grandeur about what could get done.
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:06 PM
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18. He might think so
I suspect if he had known that he'd still be trying to pass a health care bill, especially this one, he might have chosen to do something else for the last year. This has gone on a good 5 months longer than he really wanted. Even he might be looking at this as "pissing away" a years worth of effort on something that will ultimately undermine much of what else he wants to accomplish. 20/20 hindsight for sure, but none the less, probably not the year he'd a preferred.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:12 AM
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85. There is no other time he could have tackled health.
He lacked a disciplined Senate, but that is hardly his fault. If he tried it later, the majorities may not have been there.
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 09:20 AM
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101. Actually a very disciplined senate
It was a very disciplined senate, just not one that was going to cater to his schedule or desires. As you say "no other time" may be true, but the assertion is, knowing what he knows now, he would have put it off until a second term, if at all. It has potentially cost him the rest of his agenda.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:09 AM
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87. I believe Obama would sell the White House silver if he could to get a second term.
I think the way he has pursued his platform this past year is his cynical attempt to get reelected for a second term.

Basically the strategy is to cater and bend over backward for the elites, the military industrial complex, Wall Street and health insurance companies and big Pharma. Interesting that this people are continuing to fill Obama's campaign coffers as we bail these entities out and Obama cuts his deals with them. All of course a coincidence.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:06 PM
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49. +1
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:58 PM
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11. Why do you care? You want him primaried. n/t
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:50 PM
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3. This may explain why he does not give a shit about the base. Did he make a deal to cover up Bushco
in exchange for the presidency? Sure seems like it.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:53 PM
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5. Yeah sure...check out this site...loaded with conspiracy theories...
Sounds like it is up your alley:

http://www.myspace.com/tom_heneghan_intel

Basically, this theory is that Bush and Clinton appointed Obama President and Hillary wants to kill Obama so she can become President herself.
Have fun.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:56 PM
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8. Sounds like something a few DU'ers would come up with
Especially the mouthbreahters who keep insisting that the two parties are the same
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:59 PM
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13. The Democrats sell out to corporations; the Republicans sell out to corporations.
Yet people that see the obvious are "mouthbreathers"? You sound like a goose-stepping party loyalist.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:30 PM
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35. They're also both mammals, OMFG!
Yes. Mouthbreathers. Simpletons. Fools. The ignorant herds. People who judge the world by singular criteria that are only ever completely white or completely black.

I may sound like a "goose-stepping party loyalist" but you sound like an ignoramus.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:56 PM
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9. I think were entering a period of single term Presidents
The real job of the President since Bush (as hired by the conservatives really running the country) is to walk our economy down, to weaken us as a means of eliminating the middle class, and as a result the "winner" of the Presidency doesnt expect reelection as the populace grows angrier by the hour.

They will just "elect" another chump to do their bidding every four years, no problem.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 09:18 AM
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100. If you take away that second election, there's really no accountability for the President
A single-termer has all the power in the world, b/c they have nothing tying them down.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:00 PM
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69. you ARE joking, aren't you?
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 09:17 AM
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99. Kinda. Why hasn't his DOJ touched the Siegelman case, though? Some deal had to be made over Rove.
Or maybe they won't touch the case b/c it will lead back to their own election fraud. If you have a better explanation, I'd love to hear it.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 06:24 AM
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92. Did you read the text of the interview or listen to it?
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:51 PM
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4. I'd rather he be a really good president. n/t
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:54 PM
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6. I'd rather he'd be a "really great" two-term president.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:02 PM
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14. Exactly. He needs to start thinking in those terms. Besides, name a good one-term Prez.
I can't think of one. Probably because the "great" ones tended to get reelected because they were great. Not that every two-termer has been fantastic, but I can't think of a "great" one term President.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:55 PM
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:59 PM
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12. As explained many times by several people, it is the direction that many...
object to, nobody expected him to clean everything up in a year.

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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:02 PM
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16. Obama is taking us in a BETTER "direction", what's wrong with that? TIA
Edited on Mon Jan-25-10 07:03 PM by uponit7771
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:12 PM
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24. I do not consider mandatory purchase of private insurance a Better direction...
and I do not consider making a deal with Pharma for 80 billion over 10 years, instead of the 300 billion mentioned in the Obama/Biden HC plan a better direction.

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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:02 PM
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15. +1
I sleep better knowing who we have in office! Thank goodness is right!
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:06 PM
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19. +1
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:05 PM
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17. Let's hope he starts being a good President in his second year! I'm waiting for action, not words.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:07 PM
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20. Obama promise meter establishes that he's taken action
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:15 PM
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26. They won't read that..they'd rather shove their own
version down people's throats.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:33 PM
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60. Too bad that doesn't work with informed people.
:sarcasm:
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:49 PM
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48. what action are you missing, he has done more than most first year Presidents
?
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:45 PM
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62. Most first year Presidents don't have as much capital as he did.
I'm hoping that President Obama will come out fighting.

Losing 1 Senator doesn't really mean jack sh*t since we obviously didn't have 60 votes anyway, so I hope that we see more of the fighter Obama from the Primary season, rather than the go-along-to-get-along Pres Obama from the past year.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:09 PM
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21. Whatever he does is not going to be enough for some folks.
Whatever. :boring:
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:10 PM
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22. yup....they want him to fail. n/t
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:10 PM
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23. Just recently spotted elsewhere on DU:

My opinion EXACTLY! FYI: I voted AGAINST Joe Lieberman in 2000, but I'm learning!
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:13 PM
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25. Translation: 'Fuck the base, I'm a Republican and proud of it. Tough titty if you don't like it.'
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:15 PM
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28. When it comes to comments like these, the President has a point. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:25 PM
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:31 PM
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36. If the banks had collapsed there would have been a
depression of catostrophic proportions.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:35 PM
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38. There was never going to be a collapse. TARP was a stickup not a fixup.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:40 PM
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39. Then why did the banks pay it back? n/t
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:43 PM
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42. So the execs could freely pay out big bonuses.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:46 PM
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46. Ok! So, where does the "stick up" come into play? n/t
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:33 PM
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59. You don't really think the money was ALL paid back, do you?
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:35 PM
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61. Let's not answer a quesion with a question. n/t
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:53 PM
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77. Your question wasn't worth answering in the first place.
Everybody goddamn well knows it was a stickup.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:08 PM
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79. Whether you consider it a stick up is not the point. It had to be
done. That was the only "reasonable" solution, at the time. The underlying problem, according to most economists, is that they're "too big to fail." Essentially, that is what has to change.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:34 PM
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81. Just because you pretend to think it had to be done, doesn't mean it ACTUALLY had to be done.
It was bullshit.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:36 PM
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107. That is your OPINION and thankfully that's all it is. n/t
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 01:38 AM
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113. My opinion, shared by anybody with a clue.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:28 PM
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72. Free use of trillions of dollars?
Wish I could get a deal like that . . .
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:42 PM
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74. Elaborate, please. n/t
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:44 PM
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75. The use of money is never free.
One pays considerable interest on it. Getting a no interest loan is . . . basically impossible. Unless you're a really big bank with no money and good connections.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:49 PM
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76. Are you referring to TARP funds that were repaid? n/t
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #28
71. Well, finally some honesty.
It'$ Refre$hing!
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:15 PM
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27. If by really good, he means tireless efforts at bipartisan and blue dog consensus building
Edited on Mon Jan-25-10 07:15 PM by depakid
he may well get his wish.

While an admirable sentiment- it was (everyone has to agree) a fruitless and naive endeavor from the outset.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:44 PM
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44. I think all of us can agree on that. Even the supporters. n/t
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:18 PM
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29. He may get his wish....
....about the one term part.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:19 PM
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30. Yeah,
or his agenda might prove to be the best thing that happened to this country in decades.

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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:57 AM
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95. If he doesn't throw progrssives at least one bone, he will most certainly get his wish.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:20 PM
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31. "Really Good" presidents normally sail into the second term -
- and "Mediocre" presidents rarely see a second term. Obama's inference doesn't fit the logic or history of the circumstances he proposes.
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:13 PM
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51. He will
probably be a 'mediocre' first term president and that fits logically..........he still doesn't get it!!!
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:24 PM
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32. Better late than never.
I'm still waiting for the fighter in him. All I've seen is "bipartisanship" bullshit.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:27 PM
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34. Why doesn't he start by cleaning house of the mediocrity in his administration?
Edited on Mon Jan-25-10 07:28 PM by rateyes
Emanuel

Geithner

Bernanke

Holder

Gates


Those assholes need to go.

And, then he needs to play hard ball politics with the shitheads running Congress.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:34 PM
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37. Maybe,
he believes they're doing a good job. It's ridiculous to see people spending so much time demanding people be fired when it's clear the administration has no intention of firing them.

Same thing with Reid, people have been demanding that he be removed as majority leader for years, and the Senate turned around an re-elected him unanamously to the position.

Seems like a complete waste of energy.

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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:46 PM
Response to Reply #34
47. And Summers was there when Brooksley Born wanted more regulation...
Edited on Mon Jan-25-10 07:46 PM by slipslidingaway
and transparency on derivatives, but they were able to push her out.

Years later we bail out the speculators and now talk about a freeze on non-security spending.


The Woman Greenspan, Rubin & Summers Silenced

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/edcut/370925/the_woman_g...

"Break the Glass" was the code-name high-level Treasury Department figures gave the $700 billion bailout; it was to be used only as a last- resort measure.

Now millions have been sprayed and damaged by broken glass.

But more than a decade ago, a woman you're likely never to have heard of, Brooksley Born, head of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission-- a federal agency that regulates options and futures trading--was the oracle whose warnings about the dangerous boom in derivatives trading just might have averted the calamitous bust now engulfing the US and global markets. Instead she was met with scorn, condescension and outright anger by former Federal Reserve Chair Alan Greenspan, former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin and his deputy Lawrence Summers. In fact, Greenspan, the man some affectionately called "The Oracle," spent his political capital cheerleading these disastrous financial instruments..."


Obama wants to freeze discretionary spending for 3 years

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/01/25/obama.spending.f...

"...The proposed freeze, which could help position Obama in the political center by sharpening his credentials on fiscal discipline, would exempt the budgets of the departments of Defense, Homeland Security, and Veterans Affairs, along with some international programs.

"We are at war, and we're going to make sure our troops are funded adequately," one of the senior officials said..."


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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:24 AM
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88. Yes, yes.
All that is true.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 04:36 PM
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103. :) thanks n/t
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:41 PM
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40. At least Clinton was elected to his two terms ...
and George H.W. Bush was not a "Good" one-term president ...

Let me rephrase that ... compared to his two-"term" son, George H. W. Bush was a GREAT one-term president ...
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:41 PM
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41. That's one of my favorite Obama spins ever...
.... he's said it before. (and I dont say "spin" to bash)

love it.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:45 PM
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45. Maybe neither is in the works
"Really good" presidents can get a second term from the people too. What an odd false dichotomy being created here
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:26 PM
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58. +1
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:47 PM
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63. +2
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:12 PM
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50. Right now it'd be an uphill fight for mediocre.
n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:14 PM
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53. Teh Prezident Suks. n/t
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:18 PM
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55. From your fingers...
n/t
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:14 PM
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52. In his second year in office he'll end hunger.
By mandating we all buy food.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:17 PM
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54. naw, he'll just get beat up for not ending hunger
.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:19 PM
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56. Actually, he
is already addressing childhood hunger.

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caraher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:24 PM
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57. In the spirit of bipartisan compromise
will he then announce plans to be a mediocre one-term president, thus splitting the difference? :crazy:
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:51 PM
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64. Does that mean he will suprise us all and walk back his bigoted rhetoric in the near future?
Nope.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:52 PM
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65. Well, it's not T Roosevelt or FDR anymore, now the comparisons are, Carter or Hoover?
He doesn't see this?!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:55 PM
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67. A lot of people don't see it, and
Edited on Mon Jan-25-10 09:00 PM by ProSense
some consider it hyperbole.



Edited to fix link.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:58 PM
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68. I think your link may be broken. I'm not seeing what it links to.
It couldn't possibly be another thread of your own, could it?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:02 PM
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70. "It couldn't possibly be another thread of your own, could it?"
What exactly is the problem with linking to an already posted item?

Anyway, the link has been fixed.

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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:53 PM
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78. Well so far, I'm guessing Hoover. nt
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:53 PM
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66. I knew the topic of this thread would attract sarcastically spewed bile and vitriol
Edited on Mon Jan-25-10 08:53 PM by HopeOverFear
DUers don't dissapoint. Well, actually, they do.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:30 PM
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73. It's been egged on purposefully by some sycophants.
I hate to disappoint those DUers who like to play little games like this.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:13 PM
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80. Good thing to say and remember. You go Obama.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:43 PM
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82. Then why is he doing everything he can to be a mediocre one termer?
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:03 AM
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83. I was wondering when he'd get around to admitting it.
He gets credit for acknowledging this.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:54 AM
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84. Due Respect Mr. President, I don't believe that for a second
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 12:55 AM by Hippo_Tron
Everybody is rational and self interested including you and democracy rewards rational self interested politicians when they strive to get re-elected.

Fictional President Bartlet said it best...

"We run for things! From the day a Congressman is sworn in he's got to raise $10,000 a week so he can get reelected! A President gets to govern for 18 months. We try to get people to vote for us and in the process we hope the people force
us to do good things."

This is what Obama was talking about with his "we are the change we've been waiting for". He's going to try and get people to vote for him. People need to force him to do good things in the process.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:35 AM
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86. He's off to a piss poor start.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:08 AM
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89. translation: I don't give a shit what liberals think
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 05:55 AM
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90. ‘mediocre two-term president.’
I don't think he needs to lose any sleep over that. Right now he's looking like a below average one term president.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 06:24 AM
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91. He has said that more than once
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 06:51 AM
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93. Not too late to start now.....nt
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 07:21 AM
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94. Trobule is the way he's going he's going to wind up the worst of both worlds
A terrible one term president.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:16 AM
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96. Spoken like a true politician!!!
Who is he trying to kid? Yeah, Plouffe is back because he's not interested in making sure that in 3 years he gets reelected.......

:eyes:



:7
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:19 AM
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97. If he was "mediocre" - that would be a STEP UP!!!
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 08:26 AM by TankLV
He's been awful - and will be a well deserved one termer if he continues on his present path...

simply awful president - all bullshit no RESULTS!!!

"but at least he's not bush*!!!"...that's just not working anymore...
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:35 AM
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98. So he's saying the American public wouldn't recognize a "really" good President
and would vote him/her out?

Brilliant politics there! Let's insult voters even more and rack up a landslide.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:39 PM
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108. +1
.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 09:01 PM
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110. Bingo. nt
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 09:29 AM
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102. Nonsense. "I never campaigned on the public option."
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 09:29 AM by freddie mertz
The president has a tendency to throw words out without considering their actual meaning or longer-term consequences.

This one sounds like it was tested by some pollster or another.

Means less than nothing.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 04:46 PM
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104. "The president has a tendency to throw words"
Obama has a tendency to keep doing his job while some people are stuck parsing words, long after comments have been clarified.



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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 06:55 PM
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106. Perhaps he meant, "I never campaigned *for* the public option".
That would better fit the laissez-faire attitude he's demonstrated while Baucus has "helped" the process along this past year.
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theothersnippywshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 06:50 PM
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105. Neither is likely, or even plausible at this point. n/t
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jeanpalmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 09:17 PM
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112. My god this guy is hopelessly lost
Somebody better straighten him out real soon.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 01:42 AM
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114. What a weak weak man so sad!
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:55 AM
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115. Get Biden and 50 Senators to end the filibuster then
You can spend all your political capital and do what needs to be done and let the voters decide if they like it in 2012.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 01:42 PM
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116. At the rate he is going he will be neither...
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