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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:12 AM
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A reason to hope Dick Morris is telling the truth? (HCR: Senate bill + fix!)
(this is WAY more entertaining if you pretend you can hear Dick Morris reading this out loud)

Dick Morris: Pelosi and Reid Plot Secret Plan for Obamacare
Sunday, January 24, 2010 05:54 PM
By: Dick Morris and Eileen McGann

Highly informed sources on Capitol Hill have revealed to me details of the Democratic plan to sneak Obamacare through Congress, despite collapsing public approval for healthcare "reform" and disintegrating congressional support in the wake of Republican Scott Brown's victory in Massachusetts.

President Obama, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid all have agreed to the basic framework of the plan.

Their plan is clever but can be stopped if opponents of radical healthcare reform act quickly and focus on a core group of 23 Democratic Congressman. If just a few of these 23 Democrats are "flipped" and decide to oppose the bill, the whole Obama-Pelosi-Reid stratagem falls apart.

Here's what I learned top Democrats are planning to implement.

Senate Democrats will go to the House with a two-part deal.

First, the House will pass the Senate's Obamacare bill that passed the Senate in December. The House leadership will vote on the Senate bill, and Pelosi will allow no amendments or modifications to the Senate bill.

How will Pelosi's deal fly with rambunctious liberal members of her majority who don't like the Senate bill, especially its failure to include a public option, put heavy fines on those who don't get insurance, and offering no income tax surcharge on the "rich"?

That's where the second part of the Pelosi-deal comes in.

Behind closed doors, Reid and Pelosi have agreed in principle that changes to the Senate bill will be made to satisfy liberal House members but only after the Senate bill is passed and signed into law by Obama.

This deal will be secured by a pledge from Reid and the Senate's Democratic caucus that they will make "fixes" to the Senate bill after it becomes law with Obama's John Hancock.

But you may ask what about the fact that, without Republican Scott Brown and independent Democrats such as Joe Lieberman, Reid simply doesn't have the 60 votes in the Senate to overcome a Republican filibuster that typically can stop major legislation?

According to my source, Reid will provide to Pelosi a letter signed by 52 Democratic senators indicating they will pass the major changes, or "fixes," the House Democrats are demanding. Again, these fixes will be approved by the Senate only after Obama signs the Senate bill into law.

Reid also has agreed to bypass Senate cloture and filibuster rules and claim that these modifications fall under "reconciliation" and don't require 60 Senate votes.

To pass the fixes, he won't need one Republican; he won't even need Joe Lieberman or wavering Democrats such as Jim Webb of Virginia.

His 52 pledged senators give him a simple majority to pass any changes they want, which will later be rubberstamped by Pelosi's House and signed by Obama.

This plan, of course, is a total subversion of the legislative process.

http://newsmax.com/Headline/pelosi-reid-healthcare-obam...


lol @ that last line
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:16 AM
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1. My favorite part...
...is how he's taking a story that's been in the newspapers for the last week and reporting it as if it's some great scoop he got him his inside sources.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:22 AM
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4. mine too, and the way he manipulates the word "fixes" to his needs...he is a slimeball.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:16 AM
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2. Sounds like the Democratic party has a good plan to by-pass the
obstructionists RepubliCONS. Get er done.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:20 AM
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3. Maybe Morris will come back into the light
He certainly pulled Clinton out of his funk in the mid-90's, before he went off the deep end. We need a re-educated Morris or somebody like he used to be.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:32 AM
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5. I wouldn't have a probl;em with that, but I don't trust Morris to
tell the truth on ANYTHING! I guess there was a time when he did ok when working for BC, but that was only because that's where his paycheck was coming from!
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:35 AM
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6. He's doing this to intimidate the Dems .... thus his final sentence.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:36 AM
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7. There you go! This bill, as is, is POISON. And like NAFTA "the fix" will never be in.
:thumbsdown:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:58 AM
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8. You can hope...But when is the last time morris told the truth..about anything?
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:03 AM
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9. Where the hell has he been, we only all discussed this last week on DU.
And since when is it "a total subversion of the legislative process"? The Rethugs using the filibuster solely as a means to obstruct, rather then debate, is a subversion of the legislative process, not to mention Bush's entire Presidency.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:05 AM
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15. Bush managed to do it
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:16 AM
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10. ...a total subversion of the legislative process.
Like the way bush got his corporate entitlements and tax cuts for the rich passed?
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:17 AM
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11. This plan, of course, is a total subversion of the legislative process.
What a fucking tool!!! I'm sure he complained when Chimpy passes his insane tax cuts in this manner.

Fucking douchebag.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:17 AM
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12. I hope this lunatic is right, for once.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:47 AM
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13. No kidding.
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:00 AM
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14. You're right, Clio the Lio............
It is MUCH more entertaining if you pretend you can hear Dick Morris reading this out loud!


:rofl:



And I do hope that Dick gets his prediction right!
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 02:42 PM
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16. When I read your subject line, the words to "Reason to Believe" popped into my head.
If I listened long enough to you
Id find a way to believe that its all true
Knowing that you lied straight-faced while I cried
Still I look to find a reason to believe

http://www.mp3lyrics.org/r/rod-stewart/reason-to-believ... /

For myself, I'll believe it when I see it. My thoughts are that if anything gets passed at all, it will be so butchered and watered down as to have no benefit at all to most people.
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