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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 01:55 PM
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The rubber is about to meet the road.. Afghanistan
If the President sends more troops into Afghanistan.. I will not be surprised. He ran on that during the primary and during the election against McCain.

He said he was going to double down in Afghanistan.

And it looks like he is going to do that.

Here we go..
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:07 PM
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1. We'll See, So Far Though We Still Only Have Unnamed Sources
If this is true, I won't be happy about it, but I believe that Obama is making what he thinks is the best decision given the shitty circumstances. The decision I'm sure was not an easy one. That being said, I'd like the Afghan operation wrapped up as quickly as possible and I hope Obama is truly receiving the best data possible and more importantly going forward with the best plan possible to accomplish this.

If in fact he is going to send more troops I hope when he announces it he also lays out the details of his plan as well as mission goals and timetables and makes it clear it is no way open ended.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:12 PM
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2. I would not be surprised if he did.. he was pretty adamant during the primaries
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:19 PM
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3. I won't be surprised either, but
I won't be happy! I'll do what ever I can do, peacefully, in my power to make sure he knows my sentiments.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:22 PM
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4. That I respect...
Seriously respect...

The only thing that drives me round the bend, is when someone states they will never vote for him again.. or how could he break that promise.. when it was exactly what he ran on.

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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:42 PM
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5. Wait............
.... ok, NOW I'm ready.

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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:45 PM
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6. Yep
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 02:50 PM
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7. Thats disappointing. If True. He's made the decision to have his Presidency
Edited on Tue Nov-24-09 02:55 PM by Thrill
defined by this stupid war. Sad, because he had the opportunity to be a great transformational President.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 05:53 PM
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8. Lets see what he says on Tuesday
Obama is between a rock and a hard place on this. If he pulls out he risks being labeled as weak on security and losing to a Republican in 2012. If he stays in and the war is a disaster he risks losing to a Republican in 2012.

Now some might say that it's disgusting for him to be putting his political future over the lives of our troops and the Afghan peoples who will die in the process. I would agree except for the fact that it would be worse if a Republican gets elected in 2012 and starts more wars.

Think about it this way. Jimmy Carter decided not to bomb Iran during the embassy crisis. If he had we might have been spared 8 years of Reagan. When you think about it from an extremely cynical angle, the dead Iranians would've been a drop in the bucket compared to the suffering that people endured all over the world because of Reagan's policies.

I think Obama is looking for some kind of "peace with honor" way out of this conflict because ultimately that got Nixon re-elected.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 06:59 PM
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10. I Do Not Believe Politics Is Entering Into His Decision
At least not to that extent. I believe his concerns have more material security related foundations. But that's my analysis, YMMV.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 05:56 PM
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9. You are not the one getting your ass shot in Afghanistan
and this is a path that many of us won't follow!
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 07:23 PM
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12. Just don't tell me you voted for him..knowing this was his path and
then be chagrined or shocked..
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-24-09 07:06 PM
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11. Obamaxander the Great
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