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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:05 PM
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Obama's America"2010 and Beyond is on now with Chris Mathews & Tom Joyner
Good stuff...
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:06 PM
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1. I can't watch because I fear it'll turn into a hate-fest.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:07 PM
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2. Anything is possible with Tweety
Anderson Cooper is better tonight.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:09 PM
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5. You're probably right......
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:18 PM
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7. Right now they are have good dialog... Tweety is behaving for the most part.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:25 PM
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10. Melissa Harris-Lacewell is amazing! eom
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:30 PM
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13. She's a good counterfoil for Stephen Smith......
Who's is from the old school, even if he's relatively young.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:08 PM
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3. no thanks
Why is Tweety even on television?
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 11:17 PM
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19. He called Obama "the fifth Kennedy brother...."
.... and was one of the few commentators to take on Howard Dean during that insanity last month. (Like Dean or not, Tweety was clearly taking up for the President.)

Tweety gets a bad rap.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:08 PM
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4. Stephen Smith gets on my nerves......
he talks fast, but he doesn't say much.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 11:19 PM
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20. No he says a lot of ....
.... BS.

I dont like Michael Eric Dyson either.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:17 PM
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6. This is probably the single best thing I've seen on MSNBC. eom
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:18 PM
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8. I agree Kitty
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:24 PM
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9. I'm liking it so far. nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:26 PM
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11. Thanks..I see
it later on youtube, I hope.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:29 PM
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12. Chris matthews and his MSNBC Polls.......
will it ever end?

Folks looking at him like.....WTF?
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:36 PM
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15. I agree with them. The audience going WTF, I mean.
Edited on Mon Jan-18-10 10:37 PM by Overseas
Let me hear from the guests! Great range of guests. I'd love to hear them more.

Wish he'd let Tom Joyner take the lead.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:34 PM
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14. Very sad Chatty Chris is hosting with his wanting to pretend.
Wanting to pretend we've "grown beyond" racism or something. And loving far too much to hear himself speak, when

Professor Harris Lacewell is saying such wonderful things. She's been great and deep tonight. Talking about social inequities that affect many people, black brown and poor of all kinds. Stressing that it shouldn't be left at worrying about surface issues.

And just now, Go Professor Lacewell, saying we should perhaps better be asking what is going on in white peoples' minds.

And earlier bringing up the incarceration rates of young black americans, as the right wing or libertarian black guy on the panel was talking about it being easy to find a job if you know how to go about it.

Chris likes to hear himself speak too much. Would have preferred another host, like perhaps Alison Stewart, or Ed Schultz.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:40 PM
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16. John McWhorter is a douche. He should stick to linguistics, where he is awesome.
And stay out of politics.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 11:04 PM
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18. Hear Hear! Glad the others are getting more time to speak now.
But dear Chris does go on.

And that obligatory inclusion of right wingers bugs me.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:43 PM
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17. She also brought up marriage equality....and Chris shut up her up quick!
That was something!
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 11:33 PM
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22. I agree. That was really abrupt. //nt
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 11:24 PM
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21. It's quite interesting nt
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:00 AM
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23. I'll watch part of the rebroadcast too.
To catch some parts I missed.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:05 AM
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24. Irshad Manji is a moran spouting neocon gibberish.
Apparently, she asked a bunch of young people why they voted for Obama on election night. She claims they all told her it was because he was black. Therefore, Obama's victory was racist.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:08 AM
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25. Yes....someone should give her some kind of pill to pop to calm her down.....
She was quite combative and arrogant. The Audience was looking at her like....
if we wanted to hear this kind of shit, we could have watch Fox news! Doh!
Then she says...I'm not a pollster. So why bring up your little unscientific poll.
She must have asked a group of 5 kids or something. I hate that shit. That's the kind
of discussion coming from her that is there to divide and polarize.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:12 AM
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26. Disappointed
This is who they should have had on the panel:

Paul Mooney
Bill Russell
Jim Brown
Warren Ballentine
Professor from Brown U that was on Rachel last week
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:34 AM
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27. Melissa Harris-Lacewell made it all worthwhile for me.
Plus the interlude where they showed videos of the Hispanic law student, the guy who wrote "Whitopia", and the white woman from a racist family who deliberately moved into an African American dominated community was very moving.

Granted, it wasn't perfect, and Tweety preened and filibustered a bit too much, but it was a damn good show overall.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 01:51 AM
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29. She was the best. I wish she had hosted the event. //nt
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 01:23 AM
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28. Tricia Rose (the Prof from Brown) is amazing
and so is Melissa Harris-Lacewell. I thought it was kinda disappointing too. I thought it was too Tweety-centric and, frankly, Tom J toned down his rhetoric too much for my taste.
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