For some posting on DU, the U.S. is simply the Great Satan, the prime evil

[cali]

in all history's long reach, and President Obama is just another servant to the evil construct.

Those folks do NOT serve up anything even remotely related to constructive criticism. Fortunately, they are a minority, but they sure are loud.

I get so sick of their dogma.

[Odin2005]

1. K&R

[PBS Poll-435]

2. Imperialism!!!!1! nt

[jesus_of_suburbia]

3. K&R

[inna]

4. what a truly idiotic post.

new low for you, really.

[demoleft]

7. no, there's truth in it. talking of a minority of people. but true. n/t

[ShortnFiery]

14. There's truth in JINGOISM. That's what the OP is promoting.

There are accounts that we are still holding secret detainees and have not YET closed GITMO.

The USA has behaved "very bad" in the past. That doesn't make us inherently EVIL, but it also does not allow us to BRAG nor WEAR *The WHITE HATS* either.

[Robb]

16. You don't see the irony

...of accusing others of jingoism while waving those little cards?

[FrenchieCat]

48. We got it. You hate this country!

You want to get your revenge!

fucking broken ass record with same ass cards.

[Better Today]

9. +1, it is sad when blindly obedient rahrahing is expected.

[cali]

13. except, darlin', I don't engage in any blindly obedient rah rahing and have

been known to slam that as well.

[cali]

11. lol. there are people on this site who literally think the U.S. is responsible

for every bad thing in the world. And there's ample evidence of that. don't like hearing it, my sweet? tough shit.

[Better Today]

25. No, but there are people like yourself who like to build that strawman.

[Robb]

30. Give me a minute

...and I'll find the post about how we caused the earthquake with the HAARP flying saucers or something.

They're on here. Denying it doesn't help the situation.

[DutchLiberal]

29. Not *every* bad thing. But *most* bad things... yes.

[spoony]

39. "who literally think the U.S. is responsible for every bad thing in the world"

You seem to be using literally in the Valley Girl sense rather than the actual definition. I've never seen anyone on this site say that the US is responsible for "EVERY bad thing in the world."

[arcadian]

12. +1

Happily unrecced

[donco6]

17. sHe's perfected the non-callout, callout. N/t

[yourout]

18. +1........talk about hyperbole.

[ShortnFiery]

5. Then we have to pull our combat troops out of the Middle East. We are creating more TERRORISTS

than we are killing.

What we are doing with those KILLER DRONES is both vile and evil beyond words.

It must END! If it continues, then whatever blowback we receive will be KARMA.

We still have time to turn this around.

President Obama must stand up to the MIC and stop the Occupations and Drone Killings. If he does NOT, then we are a truly EVIL nation who values "American Lives" as MORE PRECIOUS than those of people within the Middle East.

We are guilty if we don't STOP THE KILLING in the ME by our combat troops's munitions and Killer Drones.

[demoleft]

6. agreed. very much agreed. rec. n/t

[ShortnFiery]

8. Oh, then you want President Obama to be like BushCo and we all take Loyalty Oaths?

[Better Today]

10. It is surely starting to seem that way around here.

[cali]

have fun humping away on that strawman, short one. I said nothing remotely

like that. duh.

[Better Today]

23. If it's not what you meant, then you didn't express yourself well.

[DutchLiberal]

15. Why don't you go to FreeRepublic, where you belong?

There you can shout "USA! USA! USA!" all day long without ever having to encounter a critical, fact-filled post about the country or its policies.

[cali]

21. lol. perhaps, my little genius, because I never indulge in patriotic jingoism.

And I write many posts with RATIONAL criticism of dems, the President and this country's policy. Perhaps because I am against both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and corporate ownership of political parties. gee, that's just free republic like.

damn, I get sick of the stupid.

[DutchLiberal]

26. You just did --with your OP.

And no, you don't "write many posts with rational criticism". I've seen enough of your cheerleading, party/country-over-principles posts to know this. Please don't insult my intelligence.

[Fire1]

46. That's a blatant LIE. You should be ashamed and I AM a

"cheerleader." So, I don't agree with all of her posts but they are at least articulate and above all, RATIONAL. That's a helluva lot more than I can say for most of the crap I've been reading lately.

[DrToast]

33. Wow...talk about low self awareness.

[DutchLiberal]

19. List of dictators installed or backed (politically and financially) by the USA:

Abacha, General Sani ----------------------------Nigeria
Amin, Idi ------------------------------------------Uganda
Banzer, Colonel Hugo ---------------------------Bolivia
Batista, Fulgencio --------------------------------Cuba
Bolkiah, Sir Hassanal ----------------------------Brunei
Botha, P.W. ---------------------------------------South Africa
Branco, General Humberto ---------------------Brazil
Cedras, Raoul -------------------------------------Haiti
Cerezo, Vinicio -----------------------------------Guatemala
Chiang Kai-Shek ---------------------------------Taiwan
Cordova, Roberto Suazo ------------------------Honduras
Christiani, Alfredo -------------------------------El Salvador
Diem, Ngo Dihn ---------------------------------Vietnam
Doe, General Samuel ----------------------------Liberia
Duvalier, Francois --------------------------------Haiti
Duvalier, Jean Claude-----------------------------Haiti
Fahd bin'Abdul-'Aziz, King ---------------------Saudi Arabia
Hassan II-------------------------------------------Morocco
Marcos, Ferdinand -------------------------------Philippines
Martinez, General Maximiliano Hernandez ---El Salvador
Mobutu Sese Seko -------------------------------Zaire
Noriega, General Manuel ------------------------Panama
Ozal, Turgut --------------------------------------Turkey
Pahlevi, Shah Mohammed Reza ---------------Iran
Papadopoulos, George --------------------------Greece
Park Chung Hee ---------------------------------South Korea
Pinochet, General Augusto ---------------------Chile
Rabuka, General Sitiveni ------------------------Fiji
Montt, General Efrain Rios ---------------------Guatemala
Salassie, Halie ------------------------------------Ethiopia
Salazar, Antonio de Oliveira --------------------Portugal
Somoza, Anastasio Jr. --------------------------Nicaragua
Somoza, Anastasio, Sr. -------------------------Nicaragua
Smith, Ian ----------------------------------------Rhodesia
Stroessner, Alfredo -----------------------------Paraguay
Suharto, General ---------------------------------Indonesia
Trujillo, Rafael Leonidas -----------------------Dominican Republic
Videla, General Jorge Rafael ------------------Argentina
Zia Ul-Haq, Mohammed ----------------------Pakistan

[DrToast]

20. You sound like Rush Limbaugh. Congratulations.

[cali]

24. no, I sound like someone with a low tolerance for stupid.

and a low tolerance for dogma- of any fuckin' kind.

[Robb]

22. Clearly you have struck a nerve.

I doubt this will be allowed to stand.

[cali]

27. good.

I hate it when people say "the truth hurts", but I will, in this case, say that the FACTS hurt. And what I claimed in the OP is a fucking fact.

[GMA]

28. K&R

n/t

[JohnnyLib2]

31. K & R

And I'm amazed at the charge of "rah-rahing" by the OP.

Cali--is that a first?

[Sebastian Doyle]

32. Can you honestly justify any US military action after August, 1945?

I sure as fuck can't.

And spare me the Bush Crime Family mythology about "terraism", for anybody so inclined.

[DutchLiberal]

34. Korea, 1950.

Protecting South-Korea from becoming a stalinist dictatorship was a good thing in my book.

[cali]

36. no. and I'm not doing that in my op. duh.

[Sebastian Doyle]

40. But isn't military imperialism half the reason for negative feelings toward the USA?

Corporate imperialism being the other half.

[hileeopnyn8d]

35. Yes,

I think when you go so far as to accuse the US of invading Haiti, you've gone too far. I've read that several times today, it will no doubt only get worse.

[spoony]

37. Ayatollah Khomeini is a DUer? nt

[KittyWampus]

38. you definitely hit a nerve and it's odd so many DU'ers seem to think that an opening post

pointing out that the USA is not the singular source of all evil that befalls the world gets interpreted as the USA is totally blameless.

[cali]

41. it's pitiful.

just pitiful.

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[AlinPA]

43. Yep.

[laststeamtrain]

44. That's right! We may be Satan but we're a GREAT Satan. USA USA USA...n/t.

[Ildem09]

45. ooh Jingoism

the USA is no different and by many measures worse than about 30 other countries. is the USA evil. is the USA good? no

[depakid]

47. There was and remains a LOT of irony in Reagan's pronouncement about the evil empire

and there's certainly an argument that failure to hold individuals and entities accountable (everyone from banksters to torturers to food poisoners) accountable, an administration becomes complicit in their past (or present) behaviors.

[rasputin1952]

49. Locking...

This can go nowhere but down. Essentially a Group Attack...as for the Great Satan, he retired to Dallas/Crawford...