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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:19 PM
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Obama Remarks Vermont Baptist
Youtube and Transcript, What a great speech.
http://obama-mamas.com/blog/?p=1031

"You know, folks ask me sometimes why I look so calm. (Laughter.) They say, all this stuff coming at you, how come you just seem calm? And I have a confession to make here. There are times where Im not so calm. (Laughter.) Reggie Love knows. My wife knows. There are times when progress seems too slow. There are times when the words that are spoken about me hurt. There are times when the barbs sting. There are times when it feels like all these efforts are for naught, and change is so painfully slow in coming, and I have to confront my own doubts.

But let me tell you during those times its faith that keeps me calm. (Applause.) Its faith that gives me peace. The same faith that leads a single mother to work two jobs to put a roof over her head when she has doubts. The same faith that keeps an unemployed father to keep on submitting job applications even after hes been rejected a hundred times. The same faith that says to a teacher even if the first nine children shes teaching she cant reach, that that 10th one shes going to be able to reach. The same faith that breaks the silence of an earthquakes wake with the sound of prayers and hymns sung by a Haitian community. A faith in things not seen, in better days ahead, in Him who holds the future in the hollow of His hand. A faith that lets us mount up on wings like eagles; lets us run and not be weary; lets us walk and not faint."

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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:20 PM
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1. It was great. If anyone missed it, please watch. It is really, really good.
Edited on Sun Jan-17-10 02:21 PM by Pirate Smile
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shadesofgray Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:25 PM
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2. I don't give a shit about his "faith." I want a president, not a fucking preacher!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:39 PM
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5. I don't give a shit what you want.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:41 PM
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8. don't you sound cool. n.t
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:41 PM
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9. Oh, you want to take action
This part is for you. In reference to lessons from how our elders made change.

"Let me offer a few thoughts on this. First and foremost, they did so by remaining firm in their resolve. Despite being threatened by sniper fire or planted bombs, by shoving and punching and spitting and angry stares, they adhered to that sweet spirit of resistance, the principles of nonviolence that had accounted for their success.

Second, they understood that as much as our government and our political parties had betrayed them in the past as much as our nation itself had betrayed its own ideals government, if aligned with the interests of its people, can be and must be a force for good. So they stayed on the Justice Department. They went into the courts. They pressured Congress, they pressured their President. They didnt give up on this country. They didnt give up on government. They didnt somehow say government was the problem; they said, were going to change government, were going to make it better. Imperfect as it was, they continued to believe in the promise of democracy; in Americas constant ability to remake itself, to perfect this union.

Third, our predecessors were never so consumed with theoretical debates that they couldnt see progress when it came. Sometimes I get a little frustrated when folks just dont want to see that even if we dont get everything, were getting something. (Applause.) King understood that the desegregation of the Armed Forces didnt end the civil rights movement, because black and white soldiers still couldnt sit together at the same lunch counter when they came home. But he still insisted on the rightness of desegregating the Armed Forces. That was a good first step even as he called for more. He didnt suggest that somehow by the signing of the Civil Rights that somehow all discrimination would end. But he also didnt think that we shouldnt sign the Civil Rights Act because it hasnt solved every problem. Lets take a victory, he said, and then keep on marching. Forward steps, large and small, were recognized for what they were which was progress.

Fourth, at the core of Kings success was an appeal to conscience that touched hearts and opened minds, a commitment to universal ideals of freedom, of justice, of equality that spoke to all people, not just some people. For King understood that without broad support, any movement for civil rights could not be sustained. Thats why he marched with the white auto worker in Detroit. Thats why he linked arm with the Mexican farm worker in California, and united people of all colors in the noble quest for freedom."

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shadesofgray Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 03:16 PM
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14. I'll take justice and equality. You can keep your faith fairytale.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 03:19 PM
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16. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a man of Faith.....
as was Gahndi.

They were the greatest people to stand for Justice and Equality.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 04:44 PM
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19. Can you achieve justice and equality without some measure of faith?
Edited on Sun Jan-17-10 04:45 PM by Usrename
We are not all equal in every aspect, nor can we be. So how is this equality established without faith?
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:27 PM
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3. Thanks again....I read the transcript on your blog and it was an
excellent message.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:37 PM
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4. Thanks for this; I need to hear this speech! Rec'd! nt
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:39 PM
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6. beautiful
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 04:13 PM
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18. That's the word that came to me as well
Beautiful
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:40 PM
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7. I'd rather see him fight than rely on "faith" that everything will end up a-okay
Basically he's saying that if you have faith, it doesn't matter who the President is. It will all work out in the end!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:42 PM
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10. See #9 and click before you speak n/t
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 03:19 PM
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15. Obama continues to misunderstand the criticisms against him
Edited on Sun Jan-17-10 03:19 PM by DrToast
Third, our predecessors were never so consumed with theoretical debates that they couldnt see progress when it came. Sometimes I get a little frustrated when folks just dont want to see that even if we dont get everything, were getting something.


Nonsense. People understand politics. They know you can't always get what you want. But the people want to feel that you did everything you could to get it.

When you can't even be bothered to TRY and convince Joe Lieberman to vote your way, people aren't going to be convinced that you did everything you could. If I honestly believe Obama fought as hard as he could, I wouldn't be disappointed in the health care bill, among other things.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 03:28 PM
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17. This fight has been going on nearly a year
It's mind boggling for anybody who claims to know how politics works to believe that Obama didn't do everything he could to get the best bill possible.

Again, we could have rallied around Kennedy's bill back in June, but the same people who are bitching now were bitching about that bill then. There are people who don't do anything except bitch. If you gave them Canadian single payer, they'd bitch because it didn't include dental and prescriptions, in fact those were some of the gripes about the Kennedy bill in June.

Stop bitching and start working.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:44 PM
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13. Did you listen to the remarks or read the transcript? At no time
did the president say or even hint that faith works it all out. What he talked about was not quitting, or throwing in the towel when things aren't exactly as you would like them to be.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:42 PM
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11. Thanks, I just heard it and it's a wonderful tribute to MLK and
our country's struggles..we will get through this as with every challenge we've had.

<snips>

"What we need to do is to just ask what lessons we can learn from those earlier generations about how they sustained themselves during those hard winters, how they persevered and prevailed. Let us in this Joshua generation learn how that Moses generation overcame.

Let me offer a few thoughts on this. First and foremost, they did so by remaining firm in their resolve. Despite being threatened by sniper fire or planted bombs, by shoving and punching and spitting and angry stares, they adhered to that sweet spirit of resistance, the principles of nonviolence that had accounted for their success.

Second, they understood that as much as our government and our political parties had betrayed them in the past as much as our nation itself had betrayed its own ideals government, if aligned with the interests of its people, can be and must be a force for good. So they stayed on the Justice Department. They went into the courts. They pressured Congress, they pressured their President. They didnt give up on this country. They didnt give up on government. They didnt somehow say government was the problem; they said, were going to change government, were going to make it better. Imperfect as it was, they continued to believe in the promise of democracy; in Americas constant ability to remake itself, to perfect this union.

Third, our predecessors were never so consumed with theoretical debates that they couldnt see progress when it came. Sometimes I get a little frustrated when folks just dont want to see that even if we dont get everything, were getting something. (Applause.) King understood that the desegregation of the Armed Forces didnt end the civil rights movement, because black and white soldiers still couldnt sit together at the same lunch counter when they came home. But he still insisted on the rightness of desegregating the Armed Forces. That was a good first step even as he called for more. He didnt suggest that somehow by the signing of the Civil Rights that somehow all discrimination would end. But he also didnt think that we shouldn�t sign the Civil Rights Act because it hasn�t solved every problem. Lets take a victory, he said, and then keep on marching. Forward steps, large and small, were recognized for what they were which was progress."


http://mydd.com/users/sandy/posts/obama-mlk-remarks-ver...
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:44 PM
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12. Thank you!
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