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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 01:51 PM
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Venezuelan Jews protest broadcast of ‘Protocols’
Source: JTA

CARACAS, Venezuela (JTA) -- Venezuela’s largest Jewish advocacy group has protested to the government a state-run radio broadcast that positively referenced the anti-Semitic "Protocols of the Elders of Zion."

In a formal complaint filed this week with the Public Ministry, the Venezuelan Confederation of Israelite Associations denounced the broadcast in which journalist Cristina Gonzalez read the infamous text and suggested that listeners also should read it.

“Venezuelan Jews know that promoting this anti-Semitic document only sows hate and discrimination, violating the Constitution of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela,” the confederation said in a statement.

During the broadcast, Gonzalez expressed her admiration for the Jewish community and “non-Zionist” Israelis before plucking what she called "little pearls" from the book to explain to listeners why Zionists have been able to amass a concentration of power and wealth.

Read more: http://www.jta.org/news/article/2011/05/25/3087870/venezuelan-jews-protest-anti-semitic-broadcast



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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 01:59 PM
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1. Qu'est-ce que fuck, Gonzalez. (nt)
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 01:59 PM
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2. The bogus 'Protocols' are an amazingly resilient hoax. It would be nice if the
Russian government (the nearest actual descendant to the Protocols' Czarist creators) would make a formal international statement of 'apology and retraction'. The 'Protocols' are understood to be factual in many areas of the Middle East.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 02:01 PM
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3. And beyond; I've run into way too many people who cite them blindly
Of course, zero people would still be too many, but the number I've met is depressingly higher than that.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 08:20 PM
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14. Wrong location
Edited on Wed May-25-11 08:24 PM by happyslug
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 08:21 PM
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15. Wrong location
Edited on Wed May-25-11 08:24 PM by happyslug
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 02:05 PM
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4. White Russians fleeing the revolution in Russia
introduced Hitler to that book - via Hess.

How repulsive to see anyone continue to spout this bullshit.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 08:23 PM
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16. Why should the present Russian Government apoligize for something the Czar refused to permit?
The protocols were written by the Russian Imperial Secret police, when presented to the Czar, he told them (paraphrased, the exact quite escapes me) "We do NOT need to resort to lies to address the problems of the Jews" and ordered the protocols destroyed. Somehow the protocols survived the Czar's suppression of them and were released after WWI by escaping White Russians. Thus the protocols were released and published AND some of the former Czarist Secret police were the first to reveal to the world the protocols were false. The Communists had nothing to do with the protocols (They knew from capturing the former Secret Police Headquarters that the protocols were lies) thus both sides of the Russian Civil War did all they could to suppress the protocols.

My point is how can Russian of today, correct what the Czar AND the Communists did NOT do (i.e. everyone in leadership positions in Russia since before WWI have tried to suppress the protocols). The protocols have taken a life on their own, fooling Winston Churchill (who later denounced them then found to be lies), Henry Ford (Who just stop publishing the protocols and ignore both the protocols and the fact he had published them while it was coming out that the protocols were lies created by the Czar's Secret Police). This is like asking the abolitionists of the pre-Civil War era, to apologies for not abolishing slavery sooner then it was.
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dimbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 09:30 PM
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18. Just as a matter of history, it is still unknown who originally forged them.
Lots of reason to believe it was someone who happened to be French. Obviously the path of their spread leads thru Russia. Parts of the Protocols are known to be plagiarized from an Italian original, which was admittedly fiction.

Strange story.

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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 02:12 PM
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5. Not surprising. It's an "oldie," but quite the "goodie."
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 03:37 PM
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pschoeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 02:27 PM
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6. I thought Cristina Gonzalez was fired on the 13th of May?
nt
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 04:27 PM
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28. Looks like it: "Venezuela’s Minister of Communication and Information, Andrés Izarra, phoned station
president Cristina González on Monday to inform her of her removal"

Caracas-based Radio del Sur Suffers Shake Up, Workers Defend Fired President
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By Juan Reardon – Venezuelanalysis.com
Mérida, May 12th 2011
http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/6183
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 05:07 PM
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8. Oldest rule in politics. When the economy turns shitty, find someone
to blame. Once again, we Jews are the winners.
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Yo_Mama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 05:34 PM
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9. Yup
And this move always ends so badly, but yet it happens again and again and again.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 07:47 PM
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11. No fair, I got there first. I'm poor, elderly, and sick.
Edited on Wed May-25-11 07:50 PM by Downwinder

And a smoker.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 07:52 PM
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13. Yep. sad how often this comes around. nt
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 09:18 PM
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17. Yep, just another Emmanuel Goldstein to trot out.
"US imperialism" only goes so far.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 10:04 PM
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19. +1
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 07:20 PM
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 07:52 PM
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12. What do you expect?
From a country who's "Dear Leader" is still buddies with a vicious Holocaust Denier?
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 10:19 PM
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21. Norberto Ceresole? That right-wing cretin was Hugo's very dear friend..n/t
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 10:46 PM
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22. +1 n/t
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 10:13 PM
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20. Hugo's been doing this a long time--an article from 2008 details it.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 11:34 AM
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24. Absolutely correct. Antisemitism has been a part of Chavez' political
"philosophy" from the beginning. Now that the economy continues to unravel having a ready scapegoat is just way too convenient.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 11:49 AM
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26. From article linked by OP: "Chavez took to the airwaves and formally denounced anti-Semitism, saying
it had no place in a revolutionary society"
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 04:15 PM
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27. There's a saying in Spanish that covers it nicely: Chavez tira la
piedra y esconde la mano. (Chavez throws the stone and then hides his hand).
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 04:29 PM
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29. One can always take an old phrase like that and insert someone's name into it:
the result is not very probative
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 12:20 AM
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32. If a world leader
speak out against the treatment of the Palestinians it seem he or she is branded an anti semite,to speak out against injustice is what all world leaders should do and there would be less injustice in the world.Chavez has been branded anti-everything by the racist western press and their racist friends Viva Chavez.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-11 02:35 AM
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33. Anyone who has really been following his presidency knows fully well he is not anti-semitic.
The circle jerk of the right-wing overly entertains itself with its half-assed versions of events. If they took the time to look beyond the surface of corporate headlines they'd finally know something closer to the truth, themselves.

They kick up so much dust, sometimes all many people can hear seems to be what they're pushing. The truth takes longer to discern, since it has always been the pattern for those who wish to mislead to try to throw so much rage and hysteria around weak-minded people will assume they know what they're talking about.

It's just an exercise in self-pleasuring! Not much of substance to it, as we learn every day.
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 04:28 PM
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35. of course...
Thats why people don't show up on state TV promoting the protocols.... oh wait..
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 11:46 AM
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25. Commentary is a rightwing propaganda rag
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 05:22 PM
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30. Try this then
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 06:15 PM
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31. Here, I'll give you a link to the IACHR website. Then you can show me the actual language
in the IACHR report:

http://www.cidh.oas.org/publi.eng.htm

(CIDH is Spanish for IACHR)
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 03:28 PM
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34. From Commentary? The arch-neocon rag?
:shrug:

Is that even allowed as a source on DU?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 11:33 PM
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23. All this fuss over a Goldie Hawn movie? She's Jewish!
Edited on Wed May-25-11 11:34 PM by rocktivity


:shrug:

Ooops, wrong Protocol...sorry...

:blush:
rocktivity
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