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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 10:22 PM
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Guatemala 's justice gives 38 years in prison for murderers Rosenberg
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Guatemala 's justice gives 38 years in prison for murderers Rosenberg
A court ruled that the defendants participated in the crime in exchange for money

Thursday, July 15, 2010 to 21:19

http://mexico.cnn.com.nyud.net:8090/media/2010/07/15/rr.jpg

Guatemalan policemen guarding the nine trial for the Rosenberg case ( AFP).

GUATEMALA CITY (AP ) - A criminal court Guatemala sentenced to 38 years imprisonment for the perpetrators of the murder of lawyer Rodrigo Rosenberg, Who in a video released after his death his death blamed President Álvaro Colom.

" It was found that the defendants participated in the murder of lawyer Rodrigo Rosenberg (10 May 2009) because they were hired to perpetrate in exchange for money , "said the statement issued by the High-Risk First Court of Guatemala.

The judges based their ruling on " scientific evidence " presented by the International Commission against Impunity in Guatemala (CICIG ) , who was in charge of the investigation of this crime.

After eight months of investigation, exonerated CICIG Colom the death of the lawyer and Rosenberg concluded that it planned his murder with the support of the brothers Francisco José and José Estuardo Paiz Valdés, His friends, who hired the gunmen who carried out the crime.

Of the 11 band members who participated in the murder, the court sentenced to 38 years in prison Lucas Santiago , Edwin Lopez, William Santos and Jose Armando Ruano. The latter should purge additional 10 years in prison for the crime of illegal possession of firearms of exclusive military use.

Samuel Giron , Byron Santos, Balmoris Guzman and Miguel de Jesus Ordonez were sentenced to eight years in prison for the crime of conspiracy, because they found no direct involvement in the crime.

Another of the accused , Jesus Manuel Cardona , who during the trial served as partner to the prosecution , was sentenced to 12 years in prison.

On the other two band members , who were also accepted as collaborators of justice , Carlos Aragon Cardona was sentenced to two years in prison, while the former policeman was acquitted Luis Paz Mejía since May.

Still pending is the capture of two others involved in the crime and the trial of the brothers Paiz Valdés, identified as instigators of the murder , who remain in prison since 28 June.

http://mexico.cnn.com/mundo/2010/07/15/la-justicia-de-guatemala-da-a-38-anos-de-carcel-a-asesinos-de-rosenberg
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 10:55 PM
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1. 8 convicted in killing of Guatemalan lawyer
8 convicted in killing of Guatemalan lawyer
By JUAN CARLOS LLORCA
The Associated Press
Thursday, July 15, 2010; 11:21 PM

GUATEMALA CITY -- A Guatemalan judge has convicted and sentenced eight men to prison for the 2009 killing of a prominent lawyer who accused the country's president of his murder in a video made before his death.

Public protests erupted after the death and the release of Rodrigo Rosenberg's video implicating the president if he were to be killed. But a United Nations investigation sanctioned by the government found that Rosenberg arranged his own slaying by contracting the hit men who killed him. Investigators said Rosenberg may have been motivated by personal problems.

Four of the accused men were sentenced to between 38 years and 48 years on homicide and other charges, and four other co-consipirators received eight-years sentences for "illegal association."

But sentences for two of the men were reduced to two years and to 12 years in return for the suspects' cooperation with prosecutors. Another suspect was released after turning state's evidence.

The eight were members or collaborators of a gang of hit men that planned and carried out the killing, allegedly for a payment that originated with Rosenberg himself.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/15/AR2010071507044.html
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 10:33 AM
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2. I sure have the feeling that nobody has gotten to the bottom of this case.
It's one of the weirdest criminal conspiracies I've ever heard of. And you gotta wonder if Rosenberg wasn't set up--i.e., did not expect to die; perhaps expected his death to be faked and he gets a new identity somewhere (in Miami?).

What prompts me to suspect the CIA (or some other entity like Rumsfeld's Office of Special Plans-in-exile) is that weird, Bushwhack era, CIA caper out of Miami, wherein they expected us to believe (and the Miami Herald certainly 'fell' for it) that Hugo Chavez hired a Miami mafioso named "Guido" to deliver $700,000 in bricks of U.S. cash to the leftist candidate for president of Argentina. "Guido" gets 'caught' by customs at the Buenos Aires airport, flees back to Miami and becomes the 'star witness' for a Bushbot U.S. attorney in Miami who then creates a phony case against several patsy Venezuelan (and one Uruguayan) businessmen in Miami, to ring headlines out of the caper for many months, about the 'corruption' of leftist leaders.

But the premise of the story is absurd. As Venezuela's VP pointed out at the time, if they had wanted to give money to Cristina Fernandez in Argentina, they would have taken it on Chavez's presidential jet the next day (when he visited Argentina on a state visit) with diplomatic immunity! And he didn't say it, but I will: They wouldn't have trusted a $700,000 donation to the Miami mafia! --nor to some idiot who tried to take it through customs!

"Guido" intended to be caught. That WAS the plot. Also to be noted: Fernandez won her election handily without Chavez's help. In the face of HONEST leftist victories, all over Latin America, in TRANSPARENT elections, reflecting the WILL OF THE PEOPLE, what would our corpo-fascist rulers and their psyops designers have to resort to, to harm these leaders (to get rid of them, to restore fascist rule)?

So, consider this: Colom's election as president of Guatemala was one more triumph for the leftist movement that has swept Latin America. It must have been particularly worrisome to our corpo-fascist rulers because it was one of a series of leftist triumphs throughout Latin America, and, in particular, in Central America, as notions of democracy, sovereignty, fair trade and more equitable societies (free medical care for the poor, etc.), crept up the peninsula from Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, Brazil, Chile, Uruguay and Paraguay, through Nicaragua, Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala--where leftists won presidential elections--and, with an almost in Mexico, to the very borders of the U.S.A. As one Honduran coup general stated, the purpose of their (U.S. supported) coup was to "prevent communism from Venezuela reaching the United States." (!!)

In the CIA plan to take down these leftist governments--and especially to eliminate them, one by one, in the Pentagon's "circle the wagons" region (Central American/ the Caribbean), how to sully Colom, and to thus destabilize Guatemala?

Would they cock up such a weird plan as this--a sort of "Mission Impossible" caper to make it LOOK LIKE Colom had arranged someone's murder? The "Guido" plot makes you wonder. And did the plan go awry? Did they have to actually off the lawyer (Rosenberg) instead of faking his death? (Or did they plan to do that all along--with the actual authors of the crime, and their true intention, hidden behind these layers of hit men and so on?)

All I'm saying is that, a) the target was a popular leftist leader in the midst of a sweep of leftist leaders in Latin America, and b) the CIA does these things and has been doing them for half a century. It's no secret that the U.S. and its local fascist henchmen took down the leftist president of Honduras last year. Was the plan to take down Colom first, with this fakery? It's no secret that the U.S. backed the rightwing coup attempt in Venezuela, in 2002, and has been plotting to take down Evo Morales in Bolivia (with an overt attempt by the Bush Junta in 2008), and has been engaging in intense psyops/disinformation campaigns against Chavez, Morales, Correa in Ecuador and others.

There are certainly fascist elements in Guatemala who might have arranged this plot, on their own. But the overwhelming pattern in Latin America is U.S. plotting and U.S. interference in collusion with local fascist elements. And the Bushwhacks had a particular penchant for this kind of weirdness. What we may be seeing is Bushwhack-initiated plots unfolding within the first six months of the Obama administration--possibly at least partially meant as "time bombs" to damage his presidency and/or to hamper his initial stated policy of "peace, respect and cooperation" in Latin America. Honduras certainly smells that way. Since Hillary Clinton agrees with the goals of such activities, she helps gloss them over. That is the story of the Honduran coup, in my opinion. Are we seeing a similar construction here--with better coverup of its tracks--which also came to 'fruition' a half a year into Obama's presidency?

Looking at this photo of the convicted perps, you certainly get the feeling that the true authors of this strange crime are long gone. The youth of some of them strikes me particularly. They may be guilty of one thing or another, but they sure look like patsies. I note that the alleged "instigators of the murder" have yet to be tried and that two suspects are still at large. Who authored, and who paid for, this obviously elaborate plot, involving so many people? And does anyone really understand this plot? (Evidence that Rosenberg was unstable and suicidal could have been planted. Why in heaven's name would he carry out such an elaborate self-murder? Why not just shoot himself?)
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