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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-16-09 10:58 AM
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Mayor Ray Nagin leaves today for Cuba
Edited on Fri Oct-16-09 11:05 AM by Billy Burnett
The last paragraph would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic.



Mayor Ray Nagin leaves today for Cuba
http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2009/10/nagin_other_officials_head_to.html

Mayor Ray Nagin and a delegation of city and state officials are headed to Cuba this morning to exchange ideas with the communist country about preparing for hurricanes.

Nagin returns Oct. 22, according to his office, which didn't announce the trip until it issued a press release at 5:01 a.m. today. The release did not say how much the trip will cost or who will pay for it, but The Times-Picayune has sent questions to Nagin's press office seeking that information.

In the last four months, Nagin has taken a 10-day trip to China and Australia -- billed as an economic development excursion -- and a three-day excursion to Mexico City on AeroMexico's inaugural flight from New Orleans to the Mexican capital. He was quaratined for 3 days in China after sitting next to a passenger suspected of having swine flu.

The release states that the mayor's trip comes "less than 24 hours after President Barack Obama talked during his visit to New Orleans about the importance of flood protection and disaster preparedness."

According to the news release, Nagin is the first New Orleans mayor in 50 years to make an official visit to Cuba. Officials issued that bit of trivia after retracting an initial report that the Nagin would be the first U.S. mayor to officially visit the island nation in a half-century.

While it was scant on details about exactly what the mayor hopes to learn, it did say the delegation will meet with the Latin American Center for Disaster Medicine and learn about the way Cuba's defense officials prepare for disasters. The group will also meet with Cuban ministers of exterior relations and culture.

While tourists are still prohibited from traveling to Cuba, government travelers on official business can enter the country if they receive a license from the U.S. State Department, according to the State Department's Web site.

Accompanying Nagin are state Rep. Karen Carter Peterson, City Councilwoman Cynthia Hedge-Morrell, Chief Administrative Officer Brenda Hatfield, Police Superintendent Warren Riley, Fire Department Superintendent Charles Parent, EMS Director Jullette Saussy, Director of Emergency Preapredness Lt. Col. Jerry Sneed, New Orleans Louis Armstrong International Airport Chairman Dan Packard, Regional Transit Authority Chairman Cesar Burgos, "and others, " according to the release.

Nagin also plans to share with Cuban officials how the city moved thousands of residents out of New Orleans as Hurricane Gustav threatened in September 2008, his press office said.




From OXFAM America ...

DISASTER PLANNING ESSENTIAL FOR MINIMIZING RISKS

It might seem that a thorough, well-funded disaster plan is a luxury an impoverished country cannot afford, but there are cases of individual communities and even entire countries that have overcome lack of money and created effective ways to reduce risks and save lives. For a small investment in planning, millions of lives can be saved.

Oxfam America recently studied the experience of Cuba in its development of disaster prevention and mitigation programs. Situated in the Caribbean Sea, Cuba frequently stands in the way of serious hurricanes. While its neighbors are battered, losing lives and property, Cuba is unusually good at withstanding these calamities, and suffers much fewer dead.

Oxfam’s report, entitled Weathering the Storm: Lessons in Risk Reduction in Cuba cites a number of attributes of Cuba’s risk reduction program that can be applied by other countries. Three in particular are transferable to Asia and other regions:

* Disaster Preparedness: Cuba was especially good at mobilizing entire communities to develop their own disaster preparations. This involves mapping out vulnerable areas of the community, creating emergency plans, and actually simulating emergencies so people can practice evacuations and other measures designed to save lives. When disaster strikes, people know what to do.

* Commitment of Resources: Cuba’s strong central government prioritizes resources for its civil defense department. This helps the country to build up a common understanding of the importance of saving lives, and the citizens trust that their contributions to the government are well used for this purpose. Their collaboration on developing emergency plans helped build confidence in the government, so people trust in the plan they helped develop.

* Communications: The communications system for emergencies in Cuba builds on local resources. Using local radio stations and other media to issue warnings on potential hazards also reinforces the disaster preparations. Since the local population is already involved in mapping risks and creating emergency plans, they are more inclined to act on emergency bulletins. Good communications, packaged simply, and built on existing, commonly used resources, is another way to build trust in disaster preparations.

Cuba is a unique example. There is a strong central government committed to protecting all its citizens, even the poorest and most isolated who are typically the most at risk. The most common natural disaster in Cuba is a hurricane, a threat visible for days and even weeks in advance. Yet building a culture of disaster preparedness, and involving local communities in mitigating risks, are strategies that can be applied in many other places, regardless of how rich or poor a country might be.




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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-16-09 12:54 PM
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1. Oh, my gosh! Thanks for the warning on that paragraph. It could have been fatal
reading it without your alert, Billy Burnett.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu.nyud.net:8090/~aparsons/whoami/horrified_sarah.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com.nyud.net:8090/3214/2953377031_4cab16a194.jpg


So Ray Nagin will share his secret for his great hurricane success with CUBA, then! Marvellous! They'll be so thankful. Yikes.

Do you think he'll ever find out that CUBA is known everywhere for their total, amazing ability to not only move EVERYONE to higher ground, but to take their pets, farm animals, and household goods, and if their houses are damaged, their wages up to a year to take time off to repair their homes? Holy moly!
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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-16-09 01:21 PM
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2. Amazing level of chutzpah, isn't it?
What next, US advice to Cuba on how to train medical brigades? Universal health care?

Amazing.




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Braulio Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 05:11 PM
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6. Some thoughts about New Orleans
I used to live in New Orleans - and what really impressed me about the New Orleans political scene was their stupidity. However, we shouldn't be too hard on them, today's politicians are just as bad.

One of the dumbest moves I've ever seen is to try to rebuild the flooded areas - they were flooded because they happen to be below sea level. Just north of Lake Pontchartrain there are areas approximately 40 feet above sea level, where new housing areas can be built - at a much lower cost, and where people can live a lot safer.

The government's role should be to build basic infrastructure, to facilitate loans for private housing, and to build four high speed rail lines to downtown New Orleans. This would be a lot cheaper and a lot more sensible than the options being considered now. But as you know, public transport isn't kosher in America.
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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 03:38 PM
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8. Yeh. The Netherlands are stoopid too. Should let it all just flood and be done w/it.
Some thoughts on your post ...







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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 05:44 AM
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3. They need some city planners to help them transform the cities.
Edited on Sun Oct-18-09 05:46 AM by Judi Lynn
http://www.geographyalltheway.com.nyud.net:8090/igcse_geography/population_settlement/settlement/imagesetc/urban_sprawl.gif


It's good to know that Cubans know the right-wing has been scheming to privatize everything they get free now. It will help help them face the pushing and shoving, and the treachery if and when the government here starts trying to play "Let's Make a Deal" with them.
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Braulio Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 03:19 PM
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7. Privatization here and there
Seems to me the Cubans will gain a lot once the Castro regime flops over and they can return to private ownership of houses and apartments. Imagine the building boom when they're free to buy bricks, cement, wood, and nails, and get after it.
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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 04:18 PM
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9. Then the homeless numbers wil skyrocket.
As it is now there are none. Housing is a human right in Cuba's current constitution. (A privatizationist's nightmare.)

I guess there'd be privatized for-profit homeless shelters. (A RWers dream.)





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Braulio Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 06:12 PM
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10. Privatized Homeless Shelters
I suppose they could have a tender for private investors to build homeless shelters. I don't know where you are, but on planet Earth, in this cosmic continuum, Cuba is a nation with a huge housing shortage, where most housing in terrible shape. This is one reason why Cubans are tired of the Castro regime.
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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 06:39 PM
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11. I don't know what planet you live on, but on the island of Cuba on Earth there are no homeless.
Edited on Tue Oct-20-09 06:42 PM by Billy Burnett
I have toured over much of the Latin Americas and have had homeless adults and children, many are drug addicted - mainly to cheap corrosive shit like huffing shoe glue or huffing melted styrofoam fumes - swarm us begging for anything, in most LatAm and Caribbean cities and towns. KeeeeRist... the DR and Jamaica are nightmares when it comes to housing, yet they are major American tourist destinations.

Not in Cuba though. There are no homeless young street urchins begging in the streets or huffing glue.


STREET CHILDREN - COMMUNITY CHILDREN
Latin America and the Caribbean
http://pangaea.org/street_children/latin/latin.htm

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STICKING WITH ADDICTION IN LATIN AMERICA
By Bonnie Hayskar
http://pangaea.org/street_children/latin/monitor.htm

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LATIN AMERICA GLUE ABUSE
http://pangaea.org/street_children/latin/strib3.htm

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Glue addiction zombifying Honduran kids (PDF download)
http://www.asylumlaw.org/docs/honduras/HON_1/SEC%20V/Glue%20addiction.pdf



Your posts are less than worthless.



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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 10:24 AM
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4. Florida repig Marco Rubio's take on Nagin's visit.
Hurricane Fidel Has Been Cuba’s Worst Disaster
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTdkYTU0Y2RjYWZjYzIxNTlkNDE2MDk1NWQ4MzhlMzg=

While New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin is in Cuba this week learning about natural-disaster preparedness from the Castro regime, he should use the opportunity to hold the government’s feet to the fire for the manmade disaster it has imposed on the Cuban people for five decades.

In Cuba, it doesn’t take a hurricane to cause power outages; government rationing of electricity has been doing that for some time. The destruction of the agricultural economy didn't begin when storms destroyed crops; it began when the regime took control of the means of production. The country's infrastructure didn’t start crumbling because of hurricane-strength winds; it’s been deteriorating for decades, along with many aspects of Cuban life, because of a regime obsessed with using its limited resources to maintain power, deprive its people of fundamental liberties and close itself off from the free world.

But perhaps the worst part about the regime’s hurricane-mitigation program is its routine, cruel, and inhumane rejection of American aid.

If Mayor Nagin is in Cuba learning about the regime’s hurricane-response efforts, he shouldn’t be surprised to discover that the worst disaster in Cuba’s history has been a manmade one called Hurricane Fidel.

— Marco Rubio is a Republican running for the U.S. Senate in Florida.







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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 11:29 AM
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5. Ray Nagin reminds me of Gavin Newsom -- you may have heard
he "reduced homelessness in San Francisco by 60%" according to his PR office, the San Francisco Chronicle. I only hope we don't have any earthquakes until Newsom is out of office or he'll "evacuate" us the same way that Nagin did.
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