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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 06:09 PM
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Hmmmn --
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6556624

Whatcha think?

Would you guys be okay with Kaine?

Regardless of who Obama picks, if he doesn't win in November, I'll be convinced it was because he didn't choose Biden.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 06:18 PM
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1. He looks so BORING!
Same with Bayh.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 06:23 PM
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2. Rachel summed it up --
WHO on the ticket might bring in the voters who might not vote for Obama otherwise?

THAT's why I think we need someone with some zip. Someone who would get a lot of coverage and great sound bites, to make peoples' ears perk up and go -- wait a mo, this guy is interesting!

We know who that is. Schweitzer might bet able to do that, too, but nobody does it better than Joe.

So even though I don't especially like Joe in the VP slot, I'm not really sure who else could bring the interest to the ticket than he does.

Except maybe Clark, but I'm still fuming on how Obama dropped him like a hot potato.


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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 08:28 PM
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5. I like Schweitzer
but I really can't picture him in DC.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 08:41 PM
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6. You bring up a great point --
and I think he's said he wouldn't leave Montana, period. So...

It would be cool to see the VP in a bolo tie, though, with Jag romping around the office. :7
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 09:38 PM
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9. It would really be unique!
Well, it appears today that everyone is saying Kaine. I wonder what they'll be saying tomorrow.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 07:24 PM
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3. I guess it's down to Biden, Bayh and Kaine with Kaine being the buzz today.
All I know of him is when he gave the Dem response to a SOTU a couple of years ago.

Was not impressed. But hey, he definitely won't outshine Obama :P

I have heard some chatter that if Obama picked Biden it would look like he needed his dad there for advice. But look at Kennedy-Johnson...and that other team that is in office right now.

If he doesn't pick Biden, I'll be disappointed but I'd still rather see Biden as SoS.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 07:39 PM
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4. Joe has been admirably deferential to Obama, IMO.
He's given credit to Obama where HE should be the one taking the credit.

I can see Joe doing it, but it wouldn't be easy on him. Again, IMO.

And there IS that concern about outshining Obama. That's the number one rule, I've heard, Thou Shalt Not Upstage The President.
Joe just can't help it. :7
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 09:12 PM
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7. Does anyone else think it's kinda weird
that Kaine is bringing all this attention to himself?

I mean, all the buzz that is out there is coming from Kaine.
(omg - I almost typed McCain. McCain. Kaine. hmmmmm)
All that has come out of Biden and Bayh's office is that they are being
thoroughly vetted right now.

Do you really think this is how Obama would want people to know who his vp pick is?

Seems weird.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 09:39 PM
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10. It does seem weird
I think Kaine screwed up and ran his mouth to the wrong people who in turn leaked it. I'm quite sure Obama is not happy about it.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 09:47 PM
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12. It just doesn't seem that this is how Obama would want it to come out.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 09:54 PM
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14. The Obama campaign
has been run so meticulously, there is no way they'd do something like this intentionally.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 09:37 PM
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8. Look at this -
:(

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6557509&mesg_id=6557509

I have a major problem with this. Well, Obama's for it, so maybe it won't make a difference.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 09:41 PM
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11. That doesn't sound too good
And of course, I can always go back to my first problem with Kaine - he's friggin' BORING!

Now he's starting to sound too much like a republican as well.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 09:51 PM
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13. I'm not sure Kaine as VP would have much to say about it, though.
(Do VPs have much input on anything? Cheney excepted, of course.) He wouldn't be able to vote against it, anyway.

AND -- I heard a medical researcher on the radio talking about some fantastic results some physicians are getting using the patient's OWN stem cells! They have found they work better than embryonic stem cells! Why the hell aren't we looking into that?
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 11:32 PM
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15. That's why I posted that thread out there...
People are so dang negative that I was starting to hope that Obama didn't pick Kaine.
No veep pick will be perfect...not even Biden. If Biden got picked, the media is going to be sitting there waiting for Biden to say something that they can pick to pieces.

That is great news about stem cells!
I watched a program about people that were helped from embryonic stem cells and it was amazing.
But sad - they had to travel to foreign countries to get treatments.
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