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Change Happens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:53 PM
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Question: is a majority Democratic House undesired by all? Did they not get voted out a month ago?
The people voted them out (most of them), the people wanted to replace them with more rightwing bastards...Now the President negotiates a deal with them outside the room, they were not present at the table, the Senate on the other hand is on board with the compromise...etc.

I guess my observation is:

The people of the country handed the House over to the Boner/Cantor crowd just one month ago...The people gave them few more seats in the Senate. So far, it looks like the Democratic House (no matter what they say and do) will not able to stop the compromise from going forward...etc. What is the argument here?

Had the people decided to keep them in power, this would not have happened, but I am thinking they are irrelevant at this point, and they all know it, including the WH.

I am disappointed that we are not going to have Nancy Pelosi as our leader, she got a tremendous amount of stuffs done, but her days are over, seems like the country is moving on...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:55 PM
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1. Well, be sure to move with it.
I'll stay here.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:56 PM
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2. The country is moving on, and the country is going down the drain. nt
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Change Happens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:57 PM
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3. So damn true........nt
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:02 PM
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4. "The country is moving on," to a big cesspool of shit.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:10 PM
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5. That's what happens when real progressive legislation never passes.
They go with the anti-progressives. Understanding reality is understanding it's not the failure of progressivism. It is the failure of those that kow tow to right wing economic dogma and won't fight it. Note that the Progressive Caucus didn't lose as many people as the DLC and the Blue Dogs.
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RickFromMN Donating Member (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 01:18 PM
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6. Most people don't follow the political wranglings very closely. They follow authority figures.

The most vocal authority figures, I can think of, are Beck, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, and who else?
On our side we have Olbermann, Maddow, and ?.

I also suspect Conservative authority figures have better circulation, reach more people.

Fox News ratings surged last year.
Google search: "Fox news" msnbc ratings
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/cnn-fox-msnbc-ratings/2010/03/29/id/354175
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/28/cable-news-ratings-july-2_n_661286.html#s119885

I also believe there is a conservative bias in this country.
We have a bias toward wanting to be independent, wanting to be individualistic.

I'm not saying the independent, individualistic streak is good or bad.

I believe, sometimes, that streak is good; other times that streak is bad.

Every person will set the balance differently.

For example, I, personally, believe health care should be a right, not based on ability to pay.
Others argue, fairly, people need to take individual responsibility for their health.

The problem with my side and the other side is we take our positions to extreme.
I want the government to take care of us from cradle to grave.
Others don't want government involvement at all.

I respond by saying, if we don't want government involvement at all, let's eliminate Social Security,
Medicare, Medicaid, the FDA, and other programs that promote government health. That's not fair of me.

But I don't feel it's fair of others to deny (or at least not admit) the government is already in health care.
The government is doing Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, school health programs, and the like.

I keep hearing the Swedish system takes care of one from cradle to grave.
Perhaps I would have been happier had I been born in Sweden, but I do love the United States.
I can't imagine ever moving from the United States.
I'd like to see the United States move, a little more, in the socialist direction.
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Change Happens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 02:26 PM
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7. Agree with everything you say, my whole family lives in Sweden, life is very very good there
We get there every year to see the family...etc. We keep saying that maybe one day we will move there, but I hate the extreme cold and darkness in the winter...Long discussion.

They do have it much much better there...I know.
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