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BlueCheese Donating Member (897 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 10:17 PM
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Winning a fight with the Republicans -- 1995/96 Budget Battle
Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 10:23 PM by BlueCheese
CNN has a nice timeline of what happened fifteen years ago during Clinton's budget battle with a GOP Congress.

http://www.cnn.com/US/9512/budget/budget_battle/index.html

Here's a summary:

To set the stage, Clinton was in a weaker position than Obama is now--the Congress was firmly Republican, not firmly Democratic (even if lame duck). The Democratic losses in the 1994 elections were more of a personal rebuke, without a weak economy to blame.

November 14, 1995: The federal government partially shuts down after Clinton vetoes a GOP spending bill. In a speech, Clinton said "They sent me legislation that said -- we will only keep the government going, and we will only let it pay its debts if and only if we accept their cuts in Medicare, their cuts in education, their cuts in the environment, and their repeal of 25 years of bipartisan commitments to protect the environment and public health.

On behalf of the American people, I said no. If America has to close down access to education, to a clean environment, to affordable health care, to keep our government open, then the price is too high."

November 16: Gingrich makes his infamous comments about seating on Air Force One. Democrats pounce.

November 19: The government reopens, with funding through December 15, after Clinton and the Republicans agree in principle to a balanced budget within seven years. Both sides claim victory, but public opinion blames the Republicans. Press secretary McCurry jabs at the GOP: "The president instructed his staff not to make too much of the polls that show us doing very well." New negotiations get bogged down.

December 7: Clinton vetoes GOP budget plan, describing it as "extreme Republican efforts to balance the budget through wrongheaded cuts". He proposes his own budget, instead.

December 16: After a week or so of sometimes productive negotiation, another impasse is reached and the government shuts down again.

December 20: Clinton, Dole, and Gingrich have started personal negotiations. House Republicans prevent an attempt to pass a short continuing resolution to reopen the government. "The most extreme members of the House of Representatives rejected that agreement," Clinton said. "A lot of them will be very happy about this because they don't feel we ought to have a government up here anyway."

January 1, 1996: The new year arrives, along with Day 17 of the second government shutdown.

January 6: The federal government reopens after Clinton agrees to submit a seven-year balanced budget plan as scored by the CBO.

January 14: Republicans acknowledge they will stop using government shutdowns or the federal debt ceiling as negotiating tools.

January 24: Republicans give ground in negotiations. CNN reported at the time, "Gingrich and Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole proposed a modest partial budget agreement that cuts the deficit but doesn't erase it entirely. Clinton had suggested a similar compromise in the past, but the GOP then rejected the idea. 'Barring a dramatic change of heart on President Clinton's part, I don't expect us to get a seven-year balanced budget while President Clinton is in office,' Gingrich told reporters."

After this, the conflict diminished to a whimper.

What would have happened had Clinton given up earlier? The Republicans would have pushed through severe cuts in Medicare, Medicaid, and other programs. Their extreme anti-government philosophy would have triumphed, and Clinton seriously weakened. The Republicans almost certainly would have sensed this and pushed for even more over the next year. It's also important to note that congressional Democrats for the most part held firm as well, refusing to panic. By winning the confrontation, Clinton made himself much stronger politically and reshaped the dynamics after the crushing losses in 1994, eventually cruising to an easy win in 1996.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 10:35 PM
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1. That was a smart move
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 10:39 PM
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2. K/R
:dem:
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 10:39 PM
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3. I'm not a Clinton fan but that man had a spine. Rec'd n/t
Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 10:39 PM by Catherina
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 10:40 PM
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4. K & R !!!
:kick:
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 10:48 PM
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5. Keeper. I love a strong man who stands up for the little guys.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 10:51 PM
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6. I use to love how Clinton would speak and not trash his own party
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 02:38 AM
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22. He didn't cut off his nose to spite his own face
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:13 PM
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7. K&R. From another non-fan of Clinton.
After his first two years I was so disgusted with him I would never vote for him again, but this is how miserable and pathetic this nation has become.

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:54 AM
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20. +100
i was pissed about his policies, but also pissed about the pubs' totally phoney "blue dress" bullshit.

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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:54 PM
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8. k/r
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:56 PM
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9. God, and I criticized Clinton. He seems like Gandhi compared to this joker.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:03 AM
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14. "He seems like Gandhi compared to this joker."
Gandhi enacted DOMA, DADT and welfare reform?

So good that Clinton was looking out for the little guy.

This rewritting of history is hilarious.

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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:43 AM
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18. This is not a rewriting of history
the CNN time line is pretty accurate from what I remember. The republicans didn't get what they wanted. Bill Clinton fought it. Yeah DOMA, DADT and welfare reform were bad, but look what is going on today, and what has been going on. Where is Obama looking out for the little guy? A shitty unemployment deal. What a fucking joke.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:51 AM
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19. "Yeah DOMA, DADT and welfare reform were bad,
but look what is going on today, and what has been going on. Where is Obama looking out for the little guy?"

What About the Obama Tax Cuts?

You know, the ones that include the Making Work Pay credit that he's being criticized for because it's not in the package.

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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 02:39 AM
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23. Pssssst!! It's about the SPINE!!
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 09:08 AM
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24. The tax cuts Obama is extending to
the rich are the problem. They increase the deficit and that allows the republicans to scream for budget cuts to the safety net programs, and Obama in his quest for the holy grail of bipartisanship will go right along. . Bush's cuts should expire or die a fucking death of a 1000 cuts. They have done nothing and Obamas cuts to the rich will do nothing either. A recession is painful, but everybody should share in that pain. Who's looking out for the little guy when you know damn good and well the cuts are coming to SS, SSI, welfare,food stamps and god knows what else.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:56 PM
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10. Clinton knew how to tell the right people to get bent.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 11:58 PM
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11. A good idea to review this, too
kicked and recommended~ for if history cannot be looked at, we can't find our ground
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:00 AM
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12. K and R (nt)
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:01 AM
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13. K&R
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:04 AM
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15. K&R
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 12:04 AM
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16. I remember, living in a Navy town, trust me, I remember
It was NOT pretty.

But that is the kind of fight meeded
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-10 02:33 AM
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21. k/r
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