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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 03:07 PM
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Hold up your hand if you think a pfc had access to lots of diplomatic traffic and forwarded it all
to wikileaks all by himself

:D

... suspicion has fallen on US Army private Bradley Manning ...
28 November 2010 Last updated at 14:39 ET
Wikileaks release of embassy cables reveals US concerns
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11858895

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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 03:11 PM
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1. *Raising hand.*
Because I know how MI works.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 03:27 PM
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2. So a foreign power could bribe a pfc and get our diplomatic traffic?
:rofl:

I don't think so
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 04:45 PM
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6. Analysts are 98Cs with TSSI security clearances.
Do you imagine that Generals are responsible for sending and receiving every piece of intelligence information going to and from embassies? Do you think they translate and analyze all the incoming information? Who do you think is responsible for typing out agreements between countries? Generals again?

Handling intelligence information is a function of your MOS and security clearance, not your rank.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 04:49 PM
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7. Exactly.
One of the first things privates are warned about is espionage and to be careful what they divulge. From there, the security clearances are given out by specialty.

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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 05:12 PM
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8. For example, new graduates from DLI (98Gs) are normally PFCs to SP4s.
Edited on Sun Nov-28-10 05:14 PM by DevonRex
Some are even E2s. That all depends on how much college you had under your belt before enlisting. If you had more, then you began your service as a PFC and then went to SP4 before finishing DLI.

They are specifically trained for gathering, handling and analyzing intelligence information and by the time they've finished DLI and a couple of other intel schools, they have their security clearances at a TSSI level. So why on earth would anyone think the Army would spend all that time (about 1-1/2 years) and money training these individuals, whose enlistment is 4 years, and then not have them actually do what they're trained and cleared to do?

:hi:
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 05:21 PM
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10. 98X concurs... nt
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 03:30 PM
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3. I would think that was embarassing, it true.
I mean with all the blather about security and how the government is protecting us, and then something as clownish as that.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 06:50 PM
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14. The head of MI6 that compromised US operations was also quite real.
seems outlandish, fucker was giving us up to the soviets. Killed countless people.

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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 04:36 PM
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4. Like everything else
The guy on the bottom gets the blame! As they said back when I was in they army, "shit rolls downhill", and it was so true! This PFC may have done something, but to think he has done all of this by himself is insane! He just happens to be at the bottom of the hill and it's all rolling down on him!
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 04:42 PM
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5. That would be my guess, if he's even involved at all in the latest leak
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 05:15 PM
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9. Raises hand.
The .mil gives access to classified and sensitive information to all sorts of people in its ranks, including low-level enlisted personnel doing clerical work.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 06:32 PM
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11. That could make some sense for the Afghan war military reports leaked last summer, but not
Edited on Sun Nov-28-10 06:35 PM by struggle4progress
for high-level diplomatic communications
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 06:47 PM
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12. Nope, not all of it any - and high level diplomatic
Communiques, not at all.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 06:48 PM
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13. not bloody likely
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