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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:53 PM
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Let's assume the body scan policy continues...I have questions:
Generally if you set off the metal detector you get the full treatment...but if you don't set off the metal detector you will get the full body scan only if you are selected at random (rarely in comparison).

1) Does that mean people who are disabled or have metal in them will get the full body scan each and every time? Does this mean disabled get the xrays each time they fly and others only sometimes?

2) Why do they only swab you for bomb making residues at random, but all the time if you fail the metal detector? This never made sense to me. The sum total of the approach seems to be screening the hell out of old ladies in wheelchairs (judging by who is actually getting screened like that at any particular time) and letting potential bombers go through simply because they don't have a gun on them.

3) Does anyone know if by submitting to the full body scan, that they will be freed from the full pat down or will it simply be that if they see something, they are going to fully pat you down anyway? In which case, the full body scan doesn't save you the pat down, you just get the bonus of unnecessary radiation.

And regarding TSA, I'm not a conspiracy theorist --I've been submitting to ever increasing security for 25 years now, but the time spent on checking me is becoming ridiculous. And more and more, I look around at who is being screened that way at the same time --and it's almost all elderly and what appear to be people with mobility impairments.

What I'm saying is...we have beat the terrorists! Our security is so tight I can guarantee you that Al-Queda will not be strapping bombs to 85 year old grandmothers in wheelchairs. That method of terrorism has now been shut off. Now we only have to worry about the alternatives :eyes:
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:56 PM
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1. If you have a joint replacement or rod in your leg, you can get a card
that identifies you as a joint replacement recipient.

Not sure in today's world if that constitutes full body scan every time, but in the day of just metal detectors it was almost pass.

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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:00 PM
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6. People with cards like that report getting the full treatment by TSA
Do not pass go...etc. etc.

Oh, if only! :hi:
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:57 PM
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2. Yes - the full body scan doesn't save you from the pat down.
If you move a bit and the photo is blurry for instance, or if they see something they can't recognize.

I'm wondering how soon until the scan is mandatory - no opt outs - as it is in Britain.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:58 PM
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5. 2013 iirc
And a few security experts are laughing at us.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:57 PM
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3. Yes and yes to most of your questions
It is not effective either and it is designed to cow, not deter...the terrorists won...
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:57 PM
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4. I'm a walker now.
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