In Regards To The Alleged $250 SS Payment What About a 2nd Rebate Stimulus For Low Income Americans?

[Corey_Baker08]

What benefits does an individual like myself who is a 21 year old College Student that is Underemployed Receive from the Government? I remember but I'm not sure on the specifics of the program I do believe it was under President Bush though, but anyways it was when a lot of Low Income Americans that had filed taxes received a Stimulus Rebate Check.

I remember my parents getting them, I believe they were like $300 but that $300 could have very well prevented having to pay to choose the Electricity or Having Food in their Cabinets. This unfortunate position is what my parents were in in 2007 and while it has stabilized significantly they are pretty much in the same position to this day. Unfortunately with my dad being unemployed his benefits of Unemployment Compensation has expired and my mother being very underemployed is working her heart out working Weekends, Nights anything she can so her weekly take home pay is enough to cover all the bills. Since its just the two of them they dont qualify for Food stamps, or any form of Government Assistance. The Retired are not the only ones that are experiencing financial instability, what about those folks like my parents who cant make ends meet, don't have the income to get a loan, don't receive any form of Government benefits including Medicaid. What are they going to get to help make ends meet?

Also What will College and Young Men & Women like myself receive to help us out during our hard times? For me, College isn't like its portrayed in the movies, as I expect most like me feel. As for me and others like me, I work throughout the week and attend classes, I struggle to come up with the gas money to get back and forth to school and work day in and day out. Never mind the simple luxuries of stopping to get a burger before class, or an energy drink on the days I'm not motivated enough. My point being, I am all for struggling Senior Citizens to get a small personal stimulus check, but what about like the everyday working folks like my parents who work hard and play by the rules yet they are still struggling just for the basic essentials of life? I know the idea of anything associated with the word 'stimulus' may sound like a bad idea, I truly believe that even something as small and basic as the $300 President Bush and the Democrats in Congress gave us a few years ago, even that simple amount would be a blessing to hardworking people like My Parents and I. It could mean the difference between gas and food, electricity and water,prescriptions and daycare.

I guess We are what used to be called the 'middle class', those who were living fairly comfortably even though they were living paycheck to paycheck at the same time. It is people like my parents,one unemployed, one underemployed, that are suffering the hardest throughout this time of Economic hardship. It is the destruction of the middle class, and I fear that if the Democratic Party does not step it up, Republicans will absolutely succeed in making the middle class non-existent. In my humble opinion I would personally support and believe in a bill that does 'stimulate' the middle and lower class families like mine, as well as a provision that financially aids struggling college students like myself, not only by paying for our books, or are courses, but by financially supporting us for common everyday expenses like gas for the cost of the commute, just give us something!

I Want to Clarify this post is not meant to bash President Obama, The Social Security System, or anything of that nature. I would really like to hear some feedback from individuals familiar with the past Economic Stimulus Payments under Bush. I would like to find out if this is actually a feasible option or if it is just another bad idea?

C'mon lets have an open honest discussion about this post, lets not point the figure of blame and call names, of course unless you are not referring to Democrats or Democratic Ideas!!! :hi:

[Kaleva]

1. I think it'd be better to raise the minimum wage

I've mentioned in a another thread that for the minimum wage to have the same value it had in 1968, it'd have to be $10.50. I highly doubt a large increase in one year would be feasible but an annual increase of .25 to .50 an hour ought to be.

[aquart]

2. Edit, edit, edit.

[Corey_Baker08]

5. You Must Just Be Perfect-Is My Point Not Clear To You?

it amazes me the people on this site that call themselves Democrats yet they can't bring themselves to even begin having a conversation or debate about a topic without first finding something to criticize them for. You must really be bored tonight!

[Obamanaut]

17. The point was quite clear. You want the government to give you some taxpayer money. nt

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[BlueJazz]

3. I think we should just form a grass-roots group...maybe 20 million people..

....take about 100 billion from the rich and split it among America's families.
That would be about a grand apiece and the Economy would get a good jump-start and everybody would be happy.
(OK...the rich would be pissed-off but they would benefit also in the long run.)

[dkf]

7. What if the people in Haiti decided you should give them all $200 bucks a piece?

Why doesn't someone more disadvantaged than you have a right to your assets?

[BlueJazz]

8. If I had been stealing money from them for many years ....

...by buying politicians and numerous other ways, then they would easily deserve 200 bucks and much more.
Republicans love the idea that "The Strong Survive and prosper". Lets see how they like that phrase when 20 million pissed off people come knocking on their door.

[dkf]

10. How has Justin Bieber stolen from you?

Not every person who has money has done you wrong.

Just like not every person has done Haiti wrong but I'm sure some have.

[BlueJazz]

12. He has done nothing wrong but for the good of Society and the continuation ...

...of our country, some people will have to suffer some by losing 20-30 percent of their worth.
My way is simple..rather crude and nasty and maybe even unfair but it should hopefully get the job done.
(You do realize that what I'm saying is bullshit cause it ain't gonna happen but the way we are going even I wonder if it's not a viable solution)

[Skink]

14. I prefer to think of it as would you rather we seize assets now or later.

and by later I mean Tuesday.

[dkf]

15. I dont believe I have a right to another person's assets.

I think this is the mindset that scares independents and conservatives away from the left. If someone has wrongfully acquired assets we need a governmental systems that puts this to right. It should not be done by generic seizure where we tag every person with assets as evil doers regardless of how they acquired those assets.

[Obamanaut]

16. I agree. Sometimes even legal seizure goes awry, as in the case of

Kelo v. Conn.

The land/homes seized via eminent domain to build a development by a new private facility now stands empty. The Pfizer facility moved the plant someplace else, the development project lost financing, and now the land where there were homes now has weeds.

And a butt load of money was spent tearing down all the houses that were seized.

[OHdem10]

4. Forget any Liberal Ideas. The Right has taken over.

[dkf]

6. If it's coming out of the social security fund I can see it being limited to seniors.

But if it's coming from the General Fund that doesnt seem fair at all.

[Corey_Baker08]

9. I Agree With Your Logic n/t

:hi:

[iamtechus]

11. Seniors shouldn't fall for the $250 bribe.

The $250 is meant to "soften-up" the seniors who would be the ones most likely to oppose the SS cuts. This is because the cuts supposedly wouldn't affect those already drawing SS. The bribe would be just enough to sway a bunch of seniors and make it easier to enact cuts for those not yet eligible.

[Obamanaut]

13. To condense the OP with words from the OP "...just give us something..."

and to answer with more words from the OP "...just another bad idea..."

This would be a time for congress to put into practice what is a novel idea for congress - write a balanced budget, and live within that budget.

In that budget limit the spending for everything to current limits, allowing increases only for expected inflation and population growth.

For your own immediate needs, have you applied for/received Pell or any other grants available? Researched any scholarships that may be available to you?

A minor critique of the writing style of the OP - it is not normally necessary to capitalize words randomly throughout the writing.

[Corey_Baker08]

19. Okay So You Must Believe the Banks & Corporations Are More Responsible With OUR Money Than We Are

They have just done a hell of a job with the hundreds of billions of dollars they have recieved haven't they? I dont know what part of America you live in but where I live Unemployment is still over 10%, small businesses are still closing, factories are still laying off, people are still losing their homes and their livlihoods, all the while the banks and big corporations are posting record profits.
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It is very scarey that you truly believe the banks and corporations that got us into this mess are more responsible with our tax dollars than we would be. Is the CEO of US Bank going to come to my rural community and eat at my local restaurants or shop at my local stores because thats what my community needs to effectively boost our local economy.

What I was proposing was instead of giving more money to the banks why not give it to us, the taxpayers, to spend in our community, to boost our local economy, not give it to the banks and wall street so they can continue to post record profits!

[Obamanaut]

20. The OP had no mention of banks or corporations and their level

of responsibility - it had to do with a distribution of tax money to individuals.

Here is some of response 13 for review: "This would be a time for congress to put into practice what is a novel idea for congress - write a balanced budget, and live within that budget.

In that budget limit the spending for everything to current limits, allowing increases only for expected inflation and population growth.

For your own immediate needs, have you applied for/received Pell or any other grants available? Researched any scholarships that may be available to you?"

As you can see, I advocate a responsible governmental budget process - making one and sticking to it. I also suggested by means of a question such things as Pell (or other) grants and/or scholarships.