Jon Stewart joined the media lynching of ACORN

[JamesA1102]

and never issued a correction, retraction or apology.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-september-15-2009/the-audacity-of-hos

Now he is saying that MSNBC and FOX are the same, that the right and left are the same.

[ingac70]

1. Past time to put Jon Stewart on ignore. n/t

[lillypaddle]

3. +whatever :)

[Rosa Luxemburg]

2. I worry about Jon Stewart now

[lillypaddle]

4. It's sad, really

damn. And I guess there isn't a Santa Claus either. Bummer.

[HuckleB]

55. Luckily, there's always Xanax!

:eyes:

[NuclearDem]

5. He made a mistake

For all the times he's been on our side, I think I can look past this

[JackRiddler]

6. So why doesn't he correct it? That's how mistakes are handled.

[jberryhill]

15. What makes you think he didn't

Here's the January segment entitled "This is spiteful tap" on the Landrieu wiretap thing:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-january-27-2010/this-is-spiteful-tap

[JamesA1102]

23. No he pointed out their mistake.

He never acknowledged his.

[JackRiddler]

33. Requires yet another flash update...

but I will take your word for it, because he's not dishonest. (& thanks)

[Drix]

37. Here is the original ACORN story.

Jon needed to broadcast a retraction and an apology specifically to this piece of yellow journalism not fit for a bird cage.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-september-15-2009/the-audacity-of-hos

[jberryhill]

39. Why? So then you'll be informed?

You managed to figure out the story was a hoax without Jon Stewart lifting a finger.

Is there some primitive tribe in the US, locked away in a room on bread and water, who only know things that Jon Stewart said?

Jesus, we need to find them and set them loose. Then, they can, like, learn stuff and think for themselves.

[bobbolink]

40. Truth used to have value for its own sake. I guess that and integrity are sooooo last century.

[jberryhill]

44. It's a comedy show about the news

You know what?

I'm beginning to suspect that Wyatt wasn't really abandoned by the bus that they used to bring several guests to the rally.

I think they might have faked the whole affair.

[bobbolink]

49. So comedians are given a free pass on lies. Got it.

[Drix]

45. No. So he will have credibility.

When you broadcast/publish race baiting nonsense corrections and retractions need to be issued.

[jberryhill]

46. Oh *I* get it...

That's why you are in all of those threads demanding that Fox retract the story.

Makes sense to me now.

[sabrina 1]

91. If he is going to take a stand on how the media affects the dialogue

in the country, which he has done, then he needs to acknowledge his own role in that. Are you saying he has no responsibility to correct lies told on his own show? If that is the case, then he should stay away from the serious side of the media and we would all then think of his show as just comedy.

But he has ventured forth to give advise to the likes of Rachel Maddow whose own coverage of the ACORN story was Pulitzer Prize worthy compared to the rest of the media. He has deigned to give her advice, he has changed his own role in the media by doing so.

So, yes, he absolutely should have corrected that 'yellow journalism'. He seems to want to be a success in the realm of political commentary with humor, but take no responsibility for the many people who are influenced by his success.

[JamesA1102]

7. Why doesn't he acknowledge his mistake?

Why is he pushing the false equivalency that the right and left are the same?

[jberryhill]

18. He's not "pushing" anything

People objected to a video montage on one short speech he gave, and have been playing with it like catnip for weeks now.

He's not "pushing" anything, but the rest of the media can't stop talking about it.

Tell you what...

You go on TV every night and talk for a half hour, and see how many years you make it before someone gets pissed off at something you said.

[JamesA1102]

24. Yes he is pushing something

He's pushing a false equivalency and trying to act as if he is above it all.

[StarsInHerHair]

29. don't be like the media & hound him like they did Gore & kerry

maybe he forgot about it, if it was in January. I don't like how Dems must apologize, but the Right does not.

[HuckleB]

56. Because he's not a news source?

:shrug:

:rofl:

[JamesA1102]

65. He was enough of a news source to condemn ACORN. nt

[HuckleB]

75. Uh huh.

So comedians should ignore what you want them to ignore.

Got it.

:rofl:

[JamesA1102]

80. The problem is he ignored it when it was proven a hoax nt

[The Wielding Truth]

11. Yea. The Congress made a mistake ,too Did they refund Acorn?

[HuckleB]

53. Yup. And he's a comedian.

It's hilarious to watch the serious fools ignore that reality.

He's not the news. He doesn't offer corrections.

[JamesA1102]

67. That is an excuse to dodge responsibility.

[HuckleB]

72. Only in a fantasy world.

[JamesA1102]

81. You're the one in the fantasy world nt

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

90. ...and speaking of ignore...

[rustydog]

92. Thank you for some intelligent insight

The same people are all upset over Koppel's dead on opinion on the deterioration of news in america, the blurring with opinion and belief over fact and impartiality.

[SidDithers]

8. Unrec...nt

Sid

[BeFree]

10. Hard to believe, eh?

The funny man went way overboard and helped fox take down ACORN. What happened to Stewie?

[JamesA1102]

25. The truth hurts nt

[rainlillie]

79. I made up for your Unrec.

[JamesA1102]

82. Thanks nt

[OregonBlue]

9. So now Stewart is the enemy. Don't we have enough already without turning on the really good guys.

[malaise]

12. Divide and rule

That's all I see here these days.

[nadinbrzezinski]

41. Makes me wonder

that story about conservatives infiltrating and all that... and the place has become "more conservative."

But you are correct, there is a certain, shall we call it vibe there days.

[Drix]

16. Jon is not the enemy.

But he bought into O'Keefe's and Brietbart's narrative/hoax without question. The idea that the ugliest racial stereotypes are forwarded on his show without correction is scandalous. Let's get real here. To buy the ACORN hoax you first have to believe that:

1. Blacks and Hispanics would believe that O'Keefe (dressed like a circus clown)is a pimp.

2. They would help him engage in child sex slavery.

Anybody with a half a brain would call bullshit on this story from looking at the video presented. Especially if it was coming from Fox News. I suppose Jon also believes those porn videos where some guys pull up to bus stop in a van and convinces some girl to drive around town having sex on camera. The fact of the matter is Jon believes that Blacks and Hispanics are so stupid that some skinny White kid dressed as a 70's era blaxploitation pimp would would taken seriously as an actual pimp and that they would so amoral and depraved as to help him engage in the most disgusting sex crimes against children and the drop of a hat.

[rainlillie]

22. "Jon is not the enemy. " He gives them aid and comfort when he lumps

People on the left in with people on the right who are inciting violence and bigotry.

[JamesA1102]

28. Well said nt

[OregonBlue]

36. He did not lump them together. The point he was making was don't buy into the Fox

agenda of us vs them. That makes Fox more powerful. They want us to hate each other. They want controversy. He was NOT saying it's the same, he was saying that Keith and Rachel are playing their game.

[JamesA1102]

26. Not saying he is the enemy

But he's not the ally we thought he was.

[applegrove]

76. +1

[jberryhill]

13. He also went after O'Keefe on the Landrieu Wiretapping

He runs a comedy show, that comments on the news:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-january-27-2010/this-is-spiteful-tap

He doesn't investigate and report the news.

[jancantor]

14. Exactly

You can agree or disagree with Stewart (I think he makes a good point on this issue) but he is a comedian who comments on the news. I'm not sure where it's written that one has to agree with his POV on everything to enjoy him and his show.

[OregonBlue]

17. Stewart is a very bright man and a progressive. To read DU today you'd think he was Newt Gingrich.

This place is getting more toxic by the day.

[jberryhill]

20. How dare you

I had a bad bought of food poisoning once that nearly killed me.

And people like you, who trivialize the word "toxic" are eeeeeevil.

Welcome to IGNORE, mods alerted, freeper.

[OregonBlue]

32. Thanks for that one. I needed a laugh.

[boppers]

59. Well played!

:rofl:

[Desertrose]

27. You got that right.

Does anyone ever listen to what the man is really saying?

Polarity is not good and yet that's what this place is all about anymore...with us 1000% or your agin us and therefore a RW teabagging freeptard.

Whatever happened to the *big tent* and measured discussion?? Sure as hell is missing from this place.

[TheKentuckian]

85. Big tents usually house three ring circuses

Entertaining but not so productive.

Trickle down, free trade, and deregulation are huge failures and toxic to broad prosperity.

Enough of coddling the economic royalists, the warmongers, and the bigots all they got blows goats.

When you subscribe to the same silly secular religion but omit the bigotry and churchiness, you're still pushing for the same failed society.

[HuckleB]

61. Wait! Wait!

But there's a MISSILE going over Los Angeles!

It goes over every day! And no one cares!

Oh wait, that's just a plane from Hawaii.

Whoops!

[JamesA1102]

30. But he never corrected his mistake

He piled on and never said a word when it was proved a hoax.

[jberryhill]

42. So what?

He's doing a daily comedy show that comments on the news, and how it is covered, that day.

Please point me in the direction of the people being held hostage in a room somewhere, whose only source of information is the Daily Show.

You watch the Daily Show well enough to know what he has, or has not said, apparently word for word. Although you missed the link I posted above to the Landrieu wiretapping thing, where he does indeed go after O'Keefe.

And, somehow, despite your exposure to the toxic Fox News spew that is the Daily Show, you managed to find out the ACORN story was a hoax.

How did you manage? What did you do to break the hypnotic Jon Stewart spell that has caused everyone else who ever watched his show to buy into the ACORN hoax?

If we can figure out how you broke free of it, then maybe we can cure others.

[JamesA1102]

52. No way! He condemned ACORN

and helped bring the organization down. It was news when the whole thing was proven a hoax but he never commented on that.

[jberryhill]

62. "he never commented on that"

I don't know if he did or didn't. It sure seems like he mentioned it when he talked about the Landrieu wiretapping, which I've linked in this thread.

But I find it fascinating how many of you have a complete mental index of everything Stewart has ever said, so that you know he didn't.

But you didn't respond to my point.

Clearly, you managed to find out it was a hoax, and clearly you know everything Jon Stewart has ever said.

How is that you figured out it is a hoax, while every human who has ever been exposed to Jon Stewart (which is a pretty low number actually), remains under his hypnotic spell and believes the ACORN story because Jon Stewart has indelibly etched it into their brain?

Clearly, Jon Stewart is the greatest threat to freedom that mankind has ever faced. We must find a cure for his sinister influence, or there will be no hope for the future.

[JamesA1102]

66. Go and watch the clip

He piled on and condemned ACORN and then said nothing when the whole thing was proven a hoax.

[HuckleB]

60. And he's still just a comedian!!!!!

Hello!!!!???? Is anyone home?

[jberryhill]

63. I think he might be a robot from the future

Who was sent back in time to save us from Jon Stewart.

[HuckleB]

73. LOL!

:toast:

[boppers]

19. He's a comedian.

MSNBC and FAUX claim to be news.

Oh, and ACORN was cleared of doing something illegal, but not cleared of corruption.... and if you watched the whole thing, Stewart took down the would-be journalists as well.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/apr/01/jerry-brown-says-acorn-didnt-break-law/

[HuckleB]

54. +1,000,000,000,000 ... 000 !!!!!

[beforeyoureyes]

78. He is a comedian whose ENTIRE SCHTICK is calling out the crazy right

....plus hypocritical democratic politicians...

And, he holds a rally calling for unity with lunatics....

He had a GIANT opportunity to use that rally to start a meaningful discussion about the real issues facing this country and instead he chooses to squander it on non-existent bipartisanship tripe.

What a total waste....

[boppers]

86. Well, he's got us talking.

PS: Not everyone you disagree with is "crazy" or "lunatics".

That was part of the message.

[rainlillie]

21. I may send this link to Jon

Someone just posted this link to a right-wing site,where the bloogers are discussing Jon and Rachel. You won't believe the language that is being used towards Rachel, then again maybe you will. See, I've had my blog for awhile and have received my share of threats and nasty e-mails. Maybe that's why I get so pissed at even a slight comparison between the left and the right. http://www.breitbart.tv/jon-stewart-reprimands-rachel-maddow-and-msnbc-for-using-teabagger/#idc-cover

[JamesA1102]

31. Good idea

Send him some links to Dan Abrams' FAUX Apologist website:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rachel-maddow-jon-stewart-seek-a-journalistic-soul-by-gazing-into-each-others-navels/
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rachel-maddow-interviews-jon-stewart-video/

[OregonBlue]

34. But the point Stewart was making is that by buying into the "us vs. them" theme, we further the Fox

agenda. They win, the nation loses. Rachel didn't seem to get that. The MSM, even Keith and Rachel, make money out of controversy. No controversy, no viewers, no money. Fox wants a fight. We should ignore them. We should not buy into their view of us and them. We are all Americans.

[JamesA1102]

38. But that makes the false equivalency that

MSNBC is the same as FAUX and doesn't acknowledge that Rachel and Keith are playing the game with facts while FAUX is playing it with lies.

[OregonBlue]

43. They're still playing the game. Have you ever noticed that 90% of the content of their shows is

about the Republicans and teabaggers? Not even 10% is dedicated to what the Dems are doing that is right. That's why no one knows what Obama has done, and he and Nancy and Harry did a whole hell of a lot. They are playing by Fox's rules. They are defending instead of going out there and shouting the good stuff to the rooftops. If there is no controversy, there is no Fox, no Keith, no Rachel. They have a vested interest in keeping it going, whether they will admit it or not.

[JamesA1102]

51. But they are not the PR department of the Democratic party

another huge difference with FAUX that Stewart glosses over.

[HuckleB]

58. Which is not what he has been pushing.

So why are you?

:shrug:

[JamesA1102]

69. It is exactly what he is pushing.

[HuckleB]

74. Nope.

Try the real world. It's more interesting than the black and white fiction you want to inhabit.

[JamesA1102]

83. I am in the real world

And in the real world Stewart can say he's not on the playing field all he wants but the reality is that he is on the playing field whether he wants to be or not.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

35. His defense of George "Dumbya" Bush was outrageous! I DVR'd TDS everyday

but I won't be watching anymore. I couldn't believe Jon. I couldn't believe what I was hearing on Rachel's show. I believe he chose to be on her show because he knew that she'd be more soft and docile on him. He wouldn't dare go on Keith's or Ed's show.

...and guess what? Mark my words: he will be another Dennis Miller!!!

[jberryhill]

47. I took him off, burned my DVR, bought a new tv, and put plastic slipcovers on the couch

I'm still not sure if I'm safe from Jon Stewart.

I might change my name and move without a forwarding address.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

48. Whatever! You can be a smart-ass if you want, but this is still a free country and if I choose

not to entertain Jon Steward anymore, that's my right!

[jberryhill]

50. No, you do not have that right

Obama waffled on the individual mandate, requiring everyone to watch Jon Stewart.



Furthermore, you must agree with everything he has ever said or thought, and you must name your first child "Jon Stewart".

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

87. LOL!! Point taken... n/t

[HuckleB]

57. Mark My Words...

... Rachel Maddow knows more than you, and she's a bigger fan than ever.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

89. And you know this how? You know nothing about me... n/t

[UTUSN]

64. K&R #11 n/t

[ProudDad]

68. Get a grip folks...

he's a comedian...

Who gets more material from the repubs lately than the dems...

But he's all about entertainment -- NOT deep thinking...

[JamesA1102]

70. And what was entertaining or funny about the interview

with Maddow last night?

[jberryhill]

71. Jiminy Christmas - do you know what a comedian is?

A comedian is a guy who works with a staff of writers to put together a piece of entertainment.

If you sit him down for a discussion, he does not have a prepared set of jokes - he's just a regular person like anyone else - not a political scientist, philosopher, or guru. Just a person.

What would you EXPECT to be entertaining or funny about sitting down with, say, Jerry Lewis and asking him about kids with muscular dystrophy.

Jerry Lewis never cured muscular dystrophy either, and I don't see what is so godammed funny about a bunch of crippled kids.

[JamesA1102]

84. More false equivalencies

And Jerry Lewis wouldn't pretend that he is just a comedian when it comes to finding a cure for MD. He would admit that he is on the playing field as much as any doctor. He would be honest about it. The problem with Stewart is that he's being dishonest about his own role.

[beforeyoureyes]

77. Stewart sold out with that rally. His entire show was based on calling out the lying and ludicrous

I don't even get why he held that stupid rally, it just exposed him for a hypocrite and sell out.

He has an opportunity to reach millions with the message of his rally, and unity with lunatics was the theme?

I don't get it.

[walldude]

88. So what? I'm supposed to agree with the guy 100% of the time?

Jobs, The Economy, China, Burma, Social Security, Taxes, Taliban Raids, Darfur,

Yeah there is nothing I need more than another Jon Stewart thread.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: