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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:12 PM
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You do realize that it doesn't matter if KO deserved his suspension or not, right?
You DO know that he's had a large target painted on his back for years and that MSNBC execs have just been waiting for an excuse to stifle him, don't you?

It's called a pattern, folks.

Let me illustrate. Joe Scabs gets to make donations because he's a "commentator". We know Pat Buchanan has also made political contributions. Seems to indicate some selective contract enforecement on the part of MSNBC, with a specific purpose in mind, doesn't it?

Sure, Keith didn't help himself by doing this. But it would have been any excuse the MSNBC execs could find. They just didn't have to dig on this one.

"But what about Rachel, O'Donnell and Big Ed?" you ask. Well, Rachel is more low-key, O'Donnell has some political cred in his background, and Ed is just a buffoon who really doesn't help our cause much. Still, once the hubbub over KO dies down, look for the rest to be quietly and steadily canned, too.

This is a *pattern*.

Not just with MSNBC, but with ALL "news" networks. We know that Glenn Beck's advertisers have deserted him like he's the turd in the punch bowl. Yet, Faux continues to keep him on air. Because they have a specific message they want to project, and it isn't about money for them, as they make plenty of it elsewhere.

Same with MSNBC. KO is their highest rated on air personality, so from a business standpoint, their action makes no sense. But if you look at it through the lens of message and information control, everything falls into place.

This suspension may have had some legitimate underpinnings, but it was entirely politically motivated.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:15 PM
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1. When the hell are liberals going to buy a network of their own?
Even Bernie Sanders has said that we need the equivalent
of Faux ... Come on, Soros ... come on, Ted Turner (you
did TV once, get back in the game). We need a safe
place to play!
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:17 PM
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5. Check this DU post out - Great minds think alike:
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:23 PM
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14. Nearly everyone who gets their hands on some REAL money immediately becomes a puke
They recognize which side of the class war they're on and act accordingly.

As a result, the remaining liberals don't have enough money between them to buy a network.

Also: "We're all in this together ... think of those you share the planet with ... let's show some maturity here" doesn't sell as well as "You deserve EVERYTHING and you'd have it except that THEY took it away. Now get out there and TAKE IT BACK!"

The liberal point of view is an altruistic one and it will always have an uphill battle against people's natural selfishness.

At some points in history, religion used to help out by promising rewards in heaven for good behavior now. But the churches have joined the other side with militarism, end-times nonsense, and the prosperity gospel. So everything is tilted against us.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:16 PM
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2. I can back you on most of your comments but Big Eddie is a hero to a lot of us! I love his passion!
My opinion.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:16 PM
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3. Agreed.
And the Glenn Beck example is a perfect one.

The real PTB behind these things are playing for ALL the marbles. A short-term loss of revenue is nothing compared to unfettered world domination.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:16 PM
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4. Um - Ed Schultz is hardly a buffoon
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 03:16 PM by rurallib
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:20 PM
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7. You know he was doing right wing stuff until a few years ago?
I don't believe his change of heart was genuine. There are too many subtle signals that make me think otherwise.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:25 PM
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16. Yes I do. I listened to Ed for years and witnessed quite a transformation
Ed has moved tremendously personally. He is a righty who was once anti-worker to where he is now one of the very, very few who was fighting for extending unemployment, for a public option when others quit and on and on.
Yes, I know all about Schultz's past.

Listen closely and you will hear passion for the worker and the poor that is real.
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:29 PM
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17. All right. I guess I'll have to give him another chance.
It just still rankles what an asshole he was toward Air America. yes, the whole thing could've been run much better, but he was a colossal jerk about the whole thing.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:20 PM
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8. Backing up Ed. He's come a long way and is good for the cause.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:23 PM
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13. Agreed. He appeals to those macho-type guys who listen to Rush.
He provides the anger they crave, only it's leftwing anger. And he talks about hunting and other macho-guy stuff.

His style doesn't appeal to me, but I'm glad he's part of MSNBC. He's someone other people can identify with and he's a great advocate for the middle class.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:18 PM
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6. Recommend...but Ed is a great union/worker advocate. -nt
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 03:19 PM by Poboy
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:21 PM
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9. You do get it
but some folks are fixated on but he is ethically challenged.

They used the contract to do this.

That said when Bill Kristol thinks this is ridiculous, we may see KO on the air.

The Standard has some influence in the message and they know they need the illusion of a free press.

Yes there are limits to where KO and RM and the rest can go anyway.
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 04:16 PM
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18. With the backlash, this may all be reversed.
But it won't fix the basic problem we still have with the media.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:22 PM
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10. First the came for Keith..next they will come for Rachel and O'Donnell
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lib_wit_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:22 PM
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11. Buffoon? Why? I've only seen his show a few times, but he seemed true blue and right on to me.
I thought he seemed like our ticket to appeal to the "average Joe." No?

I think Glenn Beckkk is a buffoon because he's FoS, but not because he's passionate (if you can call it that, lulz!) Is Ed FoS, too? Very curious.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:22 PM
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12. K & R nt
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:24 PM
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15. Yeah
It's like they are telling Keith to lean forward, Keith, so we can stick this up your...
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