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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:39 AM
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Almost a third of people who want the govt. to spend $ to create jobs ** voted GOP**
:wtf:


http://feeds.dailykos.com/~r/dailykos/index/~3/r2ChszKl1sk/-GOP-captures-30-of-voters-who-want-more-spending-to-create-jobs

Tuesday's exit polls asked a series of policy-oriented questions. One of those questions asked voters to name their top priority for the next Congress from the following three options: (1) cut taxes; (2) reduce the deficit; and (3) increase spending to create jobs.

39% identified the deficit as their top priority and 19% named tax cuts. Republicans captured 72% and 64% of those voters respectively. I'd point out that Democrats actually have a better track record on managing deficits than Republicans, but given the emphasis of the GOP on federal debt I can understand those results.

But what I couldn't understand is how the GOP managed to capture 30% of the votes of the 37% of people who listed their top priority as increasing spending to create jobs. I mean, that is exactly what the stimulus was designed to do; perhaps it emphasized tax cuts too much and perhaps it spent too little, but that was done to win GOP support in the senate. Without Republicans, we'd have spent far more on job creation and they've made opposing the stimulus a cornerstone of their campaign.

So how in the world did they manage to win 30% of votes from people who want to see more federal spending?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:41 AM
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1. Too stupid to live
Sadly, stupid people vote.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:44 AM
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4. Ignorant I think is a better term
And if theres one thing americans are its ignorant.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:59 AM
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9. Speak for yourself, bro
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 12:03 PM by whathehell
I'm not ignorant, my family and friends arent', and I hardly think the left blogosphere is either.

Do I think a lot of Americans are misinformed?...Hell, yes...But when you consider the 24/7 Right Wing propaganda machine this country's been soaked in for about tweny years....What else could you expect, seriously?

I grew up in a time when this country was LARGELY and "truly" Democratic, as in "blue dog" free. Coincidentally or not, during that time we had something called a "fairness doctrine" and NO Right Wing "media establishment".

I understand that a number of people here have issues with The Fairness Doctrine as to it's being "free speech" compatible or even workable in this era.

That being as it may, I believe, along with many others here, that we are absolutely SCREWED unless we implement media reform, or at least "grow" the Left perspective in Broadcasting. I know many here point to the internet, but a recent study showed that most people STILL get most of their news from broadcasting...I don't think that's going to change soon.

Peace.;)
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:07 PM
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10. Willful ignorance - stupidity in my book
It's not as though people don't try to show these ignoramuses the path toward knowledge - they simply chose to ignore it - or worse fight against it knowing that educated voters would not vote Republican.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:42 AM
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2. Morans. n/t
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young but wise Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:43 AM
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3. Dummies.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:44 AM
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5. .3 * .37 =11% of the vote.
There are that many idiots in any random assortment. They probably voted the way their preachers told them to or something.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:53 AM
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8. You're saying 1 in 10 Americans is an idiot?
I'm not doubting it. Some would say more like 9 out of 10. I'm just trying to get a concrete picture of what we're dealing with here.

Clearly, it's not just these idiots who are idiots. There are also those aged idiots who voted for Republicans to preserve their Social Security and Medicare. Probably a completely different group of idiots by and large. And then there are the idiots who voted for Republicans to lower the deficit because they did such a brilliant job of that during the Bush years. Etc., etc., etc.
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:13 PM
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11. I Think Its More Like 60% Stupid - Willfully Ignorant or Just Plain Dumb
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:46 AM
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6. We aren't getting our message across well enough, and we have to do better:
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:53 AM
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7. Well the democrats weren't doing much about living wage jobs creation, so they
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 11:56 AM by RC
crossed over.

Maybe they were smart enough to know you can't have a recovery without money to spend and you need a living wage job to have extra money to spend.
The middle class should have been bailed out first. Depression era jobs creation to jump start the economy. As it was they bailed out the very people that caused this mess and they in turn sat on the money, thereby flat lining any recovery.

In a nutshell that is why we took a beating. Are our leaders smart enough to figure this out? They haven't been so far.

In other words, on a bumper sticker: "It's the Jobs Stupid!"
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:17 PM
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13. In other words, they didn't have a safe harbor in the storm, so they just pulled in anywhere.
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 12:27 PM by BurtWorm
:think:
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:23 PM
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15. Something like that.
but I don't understand the short memories.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:33 PM
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17. I'd like to say I don't understand why the Dems did not make sure to offer a safe port after 2008.
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 01:00 PM by BurtWorm
They had to have known that this would not be an easy election. Why (he innocently asks ;-) ) did they not start waging the battle from Day 1? It almost looks as though they thought they had all the time in the world.

Now of course some DUers and other Dems make the good point that the Dems and Obama accomplished a phenomenal amount in the time they had. But while there may be a larger than average portion of ignoramuses among our electorate, I don't think the public is generally stupid about how much the govt. is actually accomplishing. I think what the Dems did was get a lot of small, weak measures enacted when they really should have pushed some big obvious change through. That's what they promised. That's what the people expected. That's what the people didn't get. And here we are.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:14 PM
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12. Because the propaganda was catpulted.
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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:19 PM
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14. because they obeyed fox news
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:24 PM
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16. Independants have had the highest unemployment rates.
Voters were angry and despondent. That doesn't necessarily translate into rational. Angry ones went to the polls to punish and protest the Dem political inertia. Many despondent ones- beyond angry- stayed wherever "home" is for them these days (thanks to the banks and chronic unemployment) with a sense that their voices have long stopped mattering.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:41 PM
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18. They gave the Dems two years to help them.
The Dems made it worse so these people voted for the other choice. That's the system we've got to work with and the root of most our problem.

When only two teams are allowed to play, the obvious solution is to buy both of them.


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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 01:08 PM
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20. I'm inclined to agree with you.
Heretical for a Democrat as that may be.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 01:06 PM
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19. the uninformed.
how likely is the economy to roll w/ them in charge? in 2 years the uninformed will try dems again. chill.
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