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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 10:28 AM
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Four Women Agree About Justice Thomas
Edited on Thu Oct-21-10 10:31 AM by FourScore
Four Women Agree About Justice Thomas
by Jesselyn Radack
Thu Oct 21, 2010 at 05:17:40 AM PDT

It is outrageous that the recent call from Virginia Thomas, wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas--asking Anita Hill to apologize for telling the truth about Justice Thomas--should spark any debate about Hill's testimony almost twenty years ago, which the majority of the country found credible.

Not that a woman should need such corroboration to be believed, but the MSM seems to have forgotten that during Justice Thomas's confirmation process, two other women told of experiences with Thomas similar to Ms. Hill's.

Now, in light of Ms. Thomas's voice-mail, a fourth woman, Lillian McEwen, has come forward to say she found Hill credible.

During Thomas's confirmation process, two other women echoed Ms. Hill's testimony, telling Senate Judiciary Committee staffers of their similar experiences working with Thomas.

Angela Wright told Senate Judiciary staffers that Thomas pressured her for dates, questioned her about her breast size, commented on her anatomy and that of other women in his employ at the EEOC, and once showed up at her apartment unannounced and uninvited. An interview with Rose Jourdain, made part of the hearing record, corroborated Wright's statement:

When Ms. Wright first came in, she was very enthusiastic about her job. She was very happy to be there. As time went on she confided me increasingly that she was a little uneasy and then grew more uneasy with the chairman, because of comments she told me that he was making concerning her figure, her body, her breasts, her legs, how she looked in certain suits and dresses.


Sukari Hardnett, who worked at the EEOC from 1985 to 1986, also submitted a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee. Hardnett provided specifics about the undue attention Thomas gave to attractive females as director of the EEOC:

If you were young, black, female and reasonably attractive, you knew full well you were being inspected and auditioned as a female . . . You were always at his beck and call, being summoned constantly, tracked down whereever you were in the agency and given special deference by others because of his interest,


Now, in light of Ms. Thomas's voice-mail, a fourth woman, retired administrative law judge Lillian McEwen, who dated Thomas in from 1979 through the mid-1980s, told The Washington Post says that

The Clarence I know was certainly capable of not only doing the things that Anita Hill said he did, but it would be totally consistent with the way he lived his personal life then.


Ms. Hill should not need three other women telling the same truth to be believed, but let us not forget that she has them.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/10/21/912233/-Four-Women-Agree-About-Justice-Thomas-
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 10:33 AM
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1. I found Hill credible, too. So, make it five.
Recommended.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 12:10 PM
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17. There were others willing to testify
so, when one of the repug senator's (I can't remember which one) asked Ms. Hill why she stepped forward, that she was the only one--he was lying!!!! The others willing to testify, didn't-and it became a "she said, he said" circus. Especially, the repukes, one of their crowning moments of sheer ignorance, sexism and sleaziness.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 10:35 AM
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2. And the backfire begins. Way to kick that antpile, Ginny.
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sfwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 10:50 AM
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5. Well, at least now people aren't looking at her profit...
from his Citizens United decision.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 10:55 AM
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7. Oh but this even draws
Edited on Thu Oct-21-10 11:47 AM by Mz Pip
more attention to it. It will be mentioned in any article about Ginny Thomas from here on out. I think Ginny has inadvertently let the cat out of the bag on this.

I don't know if her intention was to divert attention away from her Teabagger antics, I kind of think not. This may have been something she's been stewing about for years and decided to do something about it. Maybe she had a few too many Martinis.

Beware of the law of unintended consequences.
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sfwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:11 AM
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10. What I honestly think is that she is lashing out...
in a passive aggressive way and not thinking at all.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:23 PM
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18. Bingo. She seems like the protypical Hateful PTA Mom type. All fuzzy kitty posters and backstabbing
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 10:36 AM
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3. i am very tough on women. she was saying all the right things. i believed her. nt
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 10:40 AM
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4. K & R
:thumbsup:
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 10:51 AM
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6. Ginny Thomas
must be dumber than a box of rocks. WTF did she think was going to happen by dredging all of this up again? It's been nearly 20 years fercrissake!

All she has succeeded in doing is putting the whole shebang front and center again, all of it. I can't imagine that Clarence wants to go there again. It wasn't just about Anita. Other women were involved as this article shows.

A lot changes in 20 years and any form of harassment is less tolerated today than it was 20 years ago. I can't see this as being any kind of "win" for the Thomas's.
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ehrnst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:03 AM
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9. She thought she could divert attention from a NYT article that was coming out
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:46 AM
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15. If anything
this will just draw more attention to her activities. Shouting "Look over there!!!!" makes people look at who's shouting, too, especially if it is a 20 year old train wreck.

I suspect more people will end up learning a whole lot more about Ginny and Clarence that she ever in a million years intended.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:14 AM
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11. I'm lovin' it but have to wonder
what is not being covered with this diversion - is it the teabagger link to Koch - did Koch himself give his friend Clarence a call.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:35 AM
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14. It reads like "Drink and Dial." (nt)
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:03 AM
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8. So Clarence was dating Lillian McEwan while still married, eh? Classy guy.
In 1971 Thomas married college sweetheart Kathy Grace Ambush. They had one child, Jamal Adeen. In 1981 they separated and in 1984 divorced.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Thomas


He was married to Kathy from 1971 through 1984. They didn't separate until 1981, so Clarence clearly was a cheating pig. I'd absolutely understand why Judge McEwen would say Hill's description of Thomas' behavior was "totally consistent witht he way he lived his personal life then."

What a loathesome individual.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:16 AM
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12. There you have it - Republicon Family Values marriage (ala Newtie)
Republicons demonstrate again that they gots the skankiest morals..
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:18 AM
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13. K & R!!
I so admire Dr. Anita Hill for taking on this nasty hypocrite. The Thomas's are messing with the wrong woman.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:52 AM
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16. More than four:
"Thomas also sexually harassed my mother at a teachers conference."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=9357668
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 03:29 AM
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19. If the other women had publicly testified, Thomas would not be on the court
One accueser is possibly a misunderstamding. More than one is a pattern.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 09:00 AM
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21. Thanks to Joe Biden. They were never called to testify.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 08:59 AM
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20. Hill actually caused my mother to change party
She was a Republican her whole life, and then changed her party after watching dickweeds like Arlen Specter go after Hill. My mother, a racist little old white lady, said "you can just tell by watching her that Miss Hill is telling the truth. I don't like the way they are treating her" and with that, she changed her party affiliation.

I was stunned.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 09:21 AM
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22. He needs to step down from the bench
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