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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:08 PM Original message |
Krugman: Epitaph for an Administration |
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n2doc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. Oh Boy.... |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 10:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
63. Thats an understatement |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 02:24 AM Response to Reply #63 |
75. Holy projection Batman... |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 06:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
88. Wouldn't it really help the Democrats |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 07:43 AM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Excellent plan |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 09:01 AM Response to Reply #92 |
102. I know. |
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timefortherevolution (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #102 |
129. It is all so surreal to me. |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #129 |
157. The major loss was the Crowning of Shrub by his hand-picked SCOTUS |
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Ticonderoga (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #102 |
142. We stand a hell of a chance boy's and girls. |
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marketbreakaway (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #88 |
120. Democrats Need a PLAN |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 12:52 PM Response to Reply #120 |
139. Plan and Platform don't matter when they cannot get the message out. |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 01:55 PM Response to Reply #120 |
152. Unfortunately, that is exactly what is being subverted by the Democratic leadership. |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #120 |
233. and what's the energy/environmental policy? "Open up more offshore drilling?" |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
2. Recommend |
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Newsjock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
3. Don't worry; the administration will take firm, decisive action |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 02:25 AM Response to Reply #3 |
76. +1 |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 05:00 AM Response to Reply #3 |
80. and to make sure the foreclosure fraud paperwork is made legal for the banks |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 10:23 AM Response to Reply #80 |
121. Sunday when the Obamas visited Ohio, |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 10:40 AM Response to Reply #121 |
125. I agree with |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #121 |
134. and why didn't Jennifer win the primary? Because she was a highly qualified progressive |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #134 |
148. The boyz treated her horribly.... |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 07:16 AM Response to Reply #148 |
192. Not only did I contribute to her but worked on her campaign. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 09:26 AM Response to Reply #192 |
196. I don't blame you |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 01:35 PM Response to Reply #196 |
230. Thanks for your ramble... |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 03:20 PM Original message |
Thanks.... |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #80 |
146. They are taking a firm stand to protect Ashcroft |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 06:49 AM Response to Reply #3 |
87. Imagine if FDR had kept Prohibition in place? We'd be ruled by gangsters . . . er, well, |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 09:39 AM Response to Reply #3 |
108. And to prevent gays from marrying |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
141. sad but prolly true. nt |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 01:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
153. yep, talk about never missing an opportunity to pee on your own leg and then run out on stage |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
4. what fiction |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Krugman never misses an opportunity to slam the President. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 11:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
66. I really think this is all about his bruised ego for not being given a cabinet position. n/t |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 12:08 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. hogwash |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #69 |
140. Hogwash indeed! |
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SaveOurDemocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #66 |
135. Did you just pull that out of your ass ... or do you have links |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #66 |
160. Yeah, and Obama couldn't help but give up single payer. |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 07:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
91. When the President makes a political choice rather than the right thing to do, he deserves |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #91 |
203. Krugman is unrealistic |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 07:28 PM Response to Reply #203 |
218. Not Krugman's job to work out political feasability. If Krugman doesn't propose |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #218 |
220. That's a lame excuse |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #220 |
226. So we blame Krugman instead of Collins, Snowe, or Specter? |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 01:35 PM Response to Reply #226 |
229. No one is blaming Krugman |
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histeria (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 09:20 AM Response to Reply #7 |
106. In fact, Krugman supported Obama's biggest achievement (health care reform) |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #106 |
133. Spot on. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #106 |
204. I would be reasonable |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #7 |
131. Sure he does |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. If what Obama has done is forceful, I'd hate to see timid |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 05:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
50. He has been forceful the way Neville Chamberlain was, but didn't even get the pretense of a truce |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
228. All three will happen again. |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. He's not claiming that the administration didn't act. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. it reads like the administration did next to nothing |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. You ought to. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. well, the amount of the bill has to fall in Congress' lap |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:43 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. And yet |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I don't fault them for working to pass the bill |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 03:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. To what end? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. to the extent that those who've been able to retain their jobs |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 03:38 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. And those that can't , wont' for a long time |
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The Uncola (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 08:18 AM Response to Reply #36 |
98. Well sir.. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 10:03 AM Response to Reply #98 |
110. Really? |
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The Uncola (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #110 |
159. Yes really. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 03:44 PM Response to Reply #159 |
164. Didn't realize you had any nt |
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The Uncola (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #164 |
177. Goodbye |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 07:47 PM Response to Reply #177 |
178. Buh bye! |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
161. Promoting it, not much |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #161 |
165. You obviously don't know how the rules of the Senate work |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 10:45 AM Response to Reply #17 |
126. That should never be repeated again. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 01:49 PM Response to Reply #126 |
151. Well said nt |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. It's that the definition of Timid? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. you act as if the President could just write a check for whatever amount he wanted |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Where did he make the effort to fight for more? |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 05:17 PM Response to Reply #21 |
45. BS |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #13 |
31. To think that it would have been possible to get a bigger stimulus bill |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 03:27 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. How about proposing one? |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 04:33 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. It was the biggest stimulus bill in history |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. dealing with reality |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Over $700 Billion is pathetically small??? |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 07:00 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. The details |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Please tell me how you get to 60 votes in the Senate with |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 08:57 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Either way |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 09:59 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Nice evasion nt |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 02:43 AM Response to Reply #55 |
78. What is the strategy for breaking up the Republicans' lockstep voting... |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 06:15 AM Response to Reply #78 |
82. Yes tell me how you get around the Senate rules to do that? nt |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 07:02 AM Response to Reply #55 |
89. The first thing you do |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 10:04 AM Response to Reply #89 |
112. Well that can only be done at the start of a session. |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 07:03 AM Response to Reply #112 |
191. I am used to not being heard. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 08:11 AM Response to Reply #191 |
193. Poor you nt |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 06:48 AM Response to Reply #193 |
221. Do you feel like |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #221 |
223. Oh give me a break! |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 07:58 AM Response to Reply #55 |
95. How about getting those aye and nay votes on the record? |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 10:07 AM Response to Reply #95 |
113. Those votes are on the record |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 10:30 AM Response to Reply #113 |
123. Have a nice day. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 01:26 PM Response to Reply #123 |
145. Thanks! You too! nt |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #113 |
213. No, they're not |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 06:20 PM Response to Reply #213 |
217. Cloture votes are how the current rules of the Senate works |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #217 |
240. *WHOOOSH* |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 06:01 PM Response to Reply #240 |
244. All cloture votes are on the record |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 12:48 PM Response to Reply #55 |
137. As has been said repeatedly, the votes don't matter. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 02:02 PM Response to Reply #137 |
156. Again you're talking tactics |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #156 |
174. Yes, just as you were talking tactics |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 07:50 PM Response to Reply #174 |
179. Not for people who's jobs were saved by the stimulus |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #179 |
199. And for the 9.6% who are still unemployed? |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #199 |
200. According to the latest independent assessment |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 05:02 PM Response to Reply #200 |
212. Can't do math? |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 06:18 PM Response to Reply #212 |
216. Wow! You're claiming that the stimulus should have provided |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #216 |
241. I recommend reading. It is quite a useful skill. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 06:07 PM Response to Reply #241 |
245. Clinton never had full employment |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 10:14 PM Response to Reply #46 |
64. You're thinking of the TARP bailout |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 12:31 AM Response to Reply #64 |
70. The stimulus bill was over $700 Billion nt |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 01:48 AM Response to Reply #46 |
73. Your error is to equate political savvy and realism. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 06:16 AM Response to Reply #73 |
83. So you're saying it would have been better to get no stimulus |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 12:50 PM Response to Reply #83 |
138. It's not a binary state. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #138 |
155. You're talking polictical stradegy but it is theoretical |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 05:21 PM Response to Reply #155 |
172. Well, |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #172 |
175. So you're rewriting history also |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #175 |
198. Nope |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #198 |
201. No you are rewriting history to fit your ideology |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 04:55 PM Response to Reply #201 |
211. So in your mind... |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 06:04 PM Response to Reply #211 |
215. I never said that |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #215 |
242. Then what's your point? |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 06:08 PM Response to Reply #242 |
246. My point is don't dishonestly put words in my mouth. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #83 |
169. Possibly. Because then the blame for the bad economy would have |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #169 |
176. Nice spin |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 09:11 PM Response to Reply #176 |
184. It matches well enough to cause Obama trouble, a lot of trouble this November |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #184 |
185. Regardless it is still spin, nt |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 11:39 PM Response to Reply #185 |
190. Dismissing everything as spin is an easy way out. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 08:12 AM Response to Reply #190 |
194. Because it is not based on reality |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 02:18 PM Response to Reply #40 |
162. Nope - not the biggest |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #162 |
166. Those weren't recovery or stimulus |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
144. How about proposing one? |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #144 |
154. So many mischaracterizations in such a small space |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
47. Bullcrap |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. And tell me how anything bigger would have gotten through Congress. |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 08:29 AM Response to Reply #48 |
100. Did he make the case? |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 10:10 AM Response to Reply #100 |
116. You have a short memory |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #116 |
128. Yeah, |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #128 |
150. Really? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 01:45 AM Response to Reply #31 |
72. Had Obama pushed hard for a bigger stimulus bill, he could now |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 06:18 AM Response to Reply #72 |
84. Your argument is that to score political points it |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 08:04 AM Response to Reply #84 |
97. Ask the unemployed if they're impressed with the stimulus. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 10:08 AM Response to Reply #97 |
114. Those who got many extra weeks of unemployment insurance |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 10:28 AM Response to Reply #114 |
122. As one of those unemployed, I disagree. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #122 |
147. And there are many who would disagree with you. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 04:20 PM Response to Reply #147 |
171. Jobs saved -- for how long? |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 07:52 PM Response to Reply #171 |
180. Of course they want jobs. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 08:30 PM Response to Reply #180 |
182. True. President Obama is not responsible for the loss of jobs, |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #182 |
186. You can't prove that statement. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 11:37 PM Response to Reply #186 |
189. And you can't prove that it would not have. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 08:13 AM Response to Reply #189 |
195. You can't prove a positive so you're asking me to prove a negative |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #114 |
170. But, watch how the mood of the country will change if the Republicans |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 07:54 PM Response to Reply #170 |
181. They will refuse and the tea partiers will back them for doing it |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. You should |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:52 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. well |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
32. Geithner and Bernake had little to do with the size of the stimulus bill |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 03:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. It's part of the larger attitude |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 04:37 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. But Bernake didn't write the stimulus bill, Pelosi did |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 06:55 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. It was negotiated |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 08:37 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Deleted message |
zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 08:55 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. The White House made the representations |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 10:01 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. But they didn't write it, Pelosi did. |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 08:21 AM Response to Reply #61 |
99. You refuse to acknowledge any role |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 10:09 AM Response to Reply #99 |
115. No I refuse to rewite history |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 10:33 AM Response to Reply #115 |
124. It's hardly re-writing history |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #124 |
149. Yes it is |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #149 |
163. It's faster |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 03:49 PM Response to Reply #163 |
167. That's a lame excuse for disrepect. |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #167 |
168. It's consistent with the medium |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #168 |
173. Timmy is nonderogatory??? |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 09:05 PM Response to Reply #173 |
183. I'm surrounded by Timmies |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 10:56 PM Response to Reply #183 |
187. The point is that you have no credibility |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 09:59 AM Response to Reply #187 |
197. That is a supposition on your part |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #197 |
202. Please it is hatred |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #202 |
207. My facts are my credibility |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #207 |
208. But you haven't stated any facts |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #208 |
209. hardly |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 06:02 PM Response to Reply #209 |
214. You're stating beliefs with out anything to back it up |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #214 |
222. Their positions are public information |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #222 |
224. Stop rewriting history. |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #224 |
225. But the distribution was not |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #225 |
232. Legislation is written based on predictions |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #232 |
236. They negotiated |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #236 |
238. Yes and there was no way Congress was going to approve anything |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 03:38 PM Response to Reply #238 |
239. Different deal |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 05:58 PM Response to Reply #239 |
243. No we do know that one |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 06:50 PM Response to Reply #243 |
247. You have a strange ability at clairvoyance |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 08:48 PM Response to Reply #247 |
248. No but I do know that you have no crediblity |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 09:11 PM Response to Reply #248 |
249. Which doesn't speak to the distribution |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 09:13 PM Response to Reply #249 |
250. Yes it does! |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 06:53 AM Response to Reply #250 |
253. Some of |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:14 AM Response to Reply #253 |
254. So now you're changing your tune |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 08:34 AM Response to Reply #254 |
255. No, also |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #255 |
256. Deleted message |
JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 05:16 PM Response to Reply #255 |
258. So now you're parroting GOP talking points. |
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prairierose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 10:04 AM Response to Reply #61 |
111. There is nothing irrational about hating... |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 10:13 AM Response to Reply #111 |
118. It is irrational when you start to rewrite history and |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 02:16 PM Response to Reply #118 |
234. Fortunately, that doesn't apply here.. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #234 |
237. So you're rewriting history too |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 03:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. Well it was. It was a waterdown, untargets, give everyone a piece of what they want pile of shit... |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. I recall... |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
39. I couldn't disagree more - |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
44. He is a Times columnist. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 12:06 AM Response to Reply #44 |
68. oh shit, you're right |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 03:59 PM Response to Reply #68 |
210. Actually he is an economist and doesn't need to mind read. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 05:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
49. ''forceful'' unreciprocated bipartisanship? |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 07:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
54. two years pissed away |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
158. He's talking forcefully against the people who caused this. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
5. Krug is right on this, and it isn't limited to Obama |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
6. yeah and if president obama said anything right now the |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 01:59 AM Response to Reply #6 |
74. What Obama does not understand is that he should, on the one hand embrace |
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mazzarro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 09:23 AM Response to Reply #74 |
107. +1 |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
235. The corporate media will say that anyhow. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
8. K&R |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
11. "Brought a Whitman's Sampler and some roses to a knife fight" |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. LOL !!! |
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Smashcut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. ROFL |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
23. "Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas". |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
24. Didn't Obama just veto a bill that would have helped the banks & screwed the people? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Yes, he did and that's a fair point. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 07:04 PM Response to Reply #26 |
53. It was a trap for troubled homeowners |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 10:00 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. Yep. A honeypot. n/t |
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MrTriumph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. What would have happened if Obama had signed the bill? |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. He could have easily signed the bill because we didn't know anything about it |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. Not this critic. |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
25. Seems like a mild coaxing for bolder action to me. |
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(22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
62. Compromise gets you |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
65. K & R nt |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
67. Maybe Obama is patterning his administration after Calvin Coolidge. |
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creon (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
71. Unfortunately |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 02:39 AM Response to Original message |
77. K & R |
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on point (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 03:55 AM Response to Original message |
79. Excellent description of spineless dems and why they are failing us |
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Shining Jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 05:20 AM Response to Original message |
81. K&R |
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zehnkatzen (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 06:26 AM Response to Original message |
85. Krugman's nailed it as usual. |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 06:28 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. I wouldn't quit your day job nt |
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zehnkatzen (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #86 |
127. I work at night, pal. HAH! PWNED YOU! n/t |
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BridgeTheGap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 07:12 AM Response to Original message |
90. If Obama acts at all, he is a socialist. If he acts forcefully, he is muslim socialist. If he acts |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 07:50 AM Response to Reply #90 |
94. As long as he takes his queues from the right as to "how he looks" |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 10:11 AM Response to Reply #90 |
117. You make a very good point. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 07:47 AM Response to Original message |
93. I agree. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
96. Krugman is having one of his drama moments. Epitaph? Really? |
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creon (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 09:13 AM Response to Reply #96 |
105. correct |
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JamesA1102 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 10:14 AM Response to Reply #96 |
119. Thanks ProSense |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 11:50 AM Response to Reply #119 |
130. Thanks, it |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #96 |
206. FROM THE GET A CLUE DEPT. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #206 |
227. From the Countering Condescension |
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mckara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
101. So Much for Audacity! |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
103. Personally, I think the epitaph was written during healthcare. |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
104. They should have come in with a flaming sword instead of a wet noodle. |
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davidwparker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
109. K&R |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
132. Plus, many calls to NATIONALIZE the banks ... Obama ignored, as well .... |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
136. Ah, well, I guess we should just stay home and not vote. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
143. All the hand wringing is highly amusing. |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-19-10 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
188. Nothing but a Goldman Sachs admin from day one! |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
205. Naomi Klein said this earlier: "no opportunity too big to squander" |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-20-10 07:34 PM Response to Reply #205 |
219. And like Krugman, she is right as well. n/t |
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LawnLover (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
231. Krugman has to be the biggest hand-wringer I've ever seen. nt. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
251. What's that old saying: "Pulling Defeat from the Jaws of Victory" ... !!! |
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ShamelessHussy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-21-10 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
252. U.S. Presidents are expected to support big business |
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RealisticDem44 (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-22-10 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
257. Krugman is correct here, unfortunately |
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