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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 10:26 AM
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A.B Stoddard On MSNBC - Jesus fucking christ
She is supposed to be doing the "news" analysis of the Obama administration going after the chamber of commerce for receiving foreign contributions. Her bias in this and how she tries to hide is downright laughable. She rehashed every talking point the right has used on this. That the American people simply don't care, that the chamber of commerce is just trying to protect our business interests overseas so ofcourse they get money from overseas, and at one point she let it slip this is just the administration trying to scare voters...quickly adding "I mean scare voters about his issue of foreign contributions".

Again, this was the "news", not opinion part of MSNBC. And these are the guys that are supposed to be the left's response to Fox News?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 10:28 AM
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1. A.B. has truly become a whore of special interests - oops, make that...
WHORE!
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 10:29 AM
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2. Saw it and you are correct. Did you catch how she managed
to say there is 'no evidence' to the Dem's claims of foreign money?
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Trekologer Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 10:34 AM
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3. At the very least there is a bunch of circumstantial evidence
And the USCC has done nothing to offer evidence to refute the charges. One could infer that the stonewalling is confirmation that foreign money is going toward campaigning.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 12:43 PM
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21. This framing is a loser, anyway.
If it could be revealed that the piles of money being shoveled at the GOP were entirely domestic, the Right would crow--because we worship money, and the only way we've been able to find any outrage is by hinting that much of it is foreign.

The Big Money in the hands of the few is our enemy, always has been, and there is hard evidence of this.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 10:35 AM
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4. The MSM, fuck 'em all, the long, short, and tall: fuck 'em all
:patriot:
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 10:36 AM
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5. Yea, & George Will on ABC just said "Money is simply a way
spmeone speaks to advocate an opinion, so it's doesn't matter where the $$ comes from." Christian told him that Judge John Paul Stevens said "Money doesn't speak!" but he would have none of that kind of talk.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 10:45 AM
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6. AB is a well known ReTHUG
hack
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 10:55 AM
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7. interestingly, so many of the stories are about the OBAMA administration attacking on this point
not the CHAMBER OF COMMERCE funnelling foreign money into american elections.

as if the story is the messenger and the only thing going on here is a political tactic of a partisan politician.
those poor whipping boys at the chamber; why doesn't that bad obama administration leave them alone?

:sarcasm:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 10:55 AM
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8. She works for 'the hill' so that explains it all. I don't know
why she's supposed to be 'the left's response to faux' because imo they're pretty closely aligned with the r/w.
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 11:14 AM
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9. Candy Crowley on CNN just repeated the claim of no evidence
of foreign money for the CoC ads. She explained that foreign companies pay dues, but no one has been able to prove that ads are financed.

It must be the right wing talking point of the day.
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cilla4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 11:32 AM
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10. Yea, and
it sounds like Axe and others are sticking with it so, I would guess it has some "traction..." eg truth! Let's hope they can drive it home here in the homestretch.
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 11:33 AM
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11. Well, did Axlerod present any evidence when he had a chance?
The answer is no.

The reason the media is, across the board, so dubious about the claim is that there isn't actually any evidence foreign money is paying for any of these ads.

There is only evidence that the chamber collects dues and perhaps donations from foreign companies. They claim they keep it separate, the dollar amount the chamber collects from foreign sources is only a fraction of the total expenditures, therefore the media tends to dismiss the claims.

It also kind of does smack of desperation. We've passed HCR, Financial Reform, a major stimulus, equal pay, etc, and as Bob Schieffer said last Sunday "this is all you've got"? Why are we not running on any of our major accomplishments? Worse, why are we running AWAY from all of our major accomplishments.

My God, if we're going to pass landmark, historic bills you'd think we'd be ready to defend and campaign on our legislative successes.
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 11:38 AM
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12. I agree, it's not what I expected the Dems to run on. But I can't
help but be skeptical about this media push to defend the CoC ads when they directly benefit from the advertising $.

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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 12:00 PM
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17. $$$$ is the number one reason the media seems unwilling to investigate
They are benefiting from all those big dollar attack ad buys.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 11:59 AM
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16. All the money goes into the same account. Chamber pushes OUTSOURCING so it is a legit issue
even without the foreign money. Chamber pushes outsourcing and supports the same Republicans who killed every jobs and anti-outsourcing bill that came from the Democrats.
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 12:23 PM
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19. You and a Polak give me money to run an organization. That org buys political ads
Edited on Sun Oct-17-10 12:25 PM by no limit
but I claim I only did it with the money you gave me. How does this make any sense to you? What more evidance do you need?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 11:41 AM
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13. The evidence is only circumstantial...Updated at 2:48 PM
The CoC has taken donations from foreign sources and they are spending about $175 million dollars on Republican campaigns. Are they spending the money from foreign sources? What do you think?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 11:43 AM
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14. Sorry, but "CoC" = "Small-town America" to MANY AMERICANS. Attacking is a lose-lose.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 12:02 PM
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18. National Chamber advocates outsourcing and I believe people are starting to get that.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 11:57 AM
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15. We aren't idiots. The Chamber has one jug. They pour American Water in it, They pour Foreign Wate
Foriegn Water in it. Then they pour a glass of water from the jug, claiming only American water is in the glass, because they have a "system"
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 12:24 PM
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20. Mike Viqueira on MSNBC this morning...
was naming off all the places President Obama will be campaigning for Dems and said it was the President's "attempt to hold off what is otherwise looking like a republican tsunami on election day" (paraphrasing).

That was this morning at around 8:15.
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