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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 02:24 PM
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Disgusted voters, the silent majority
Disgusted voters, the silent majority

Untold millions of Americans are not angry so much as frustrated, anxious and resigned that the midterm election won't change their stressed-out, stretched-thin lives.

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Ann Quinn is in her red camp chair watching her 10-year-old son at Friday afternoon soccer practice. There's a bin of blue and gold hats in the back of her SUV and a big flag. When she isn't working full time at the local Navy base, she is cubmaster for her son's pack and a classroom volunteer at his school.

If all that isn't enough, there is an election coming up next month and her husband, John, comes home most nights all spun up about what a lousy job President Obama and the Democrats are doing. She likes Obama and the Democrats. But she's tired from juggling work, parenting and cooking, and voting in these dispiriting times seems like just one more chore.

Quinn feels like she's stuck at a ping-pong match. Wasn't it only yesterday the Democrats were promising to shake things up in Washington? Now it's the Republicans, and it looks like control of the House and maybe the Senate is about to change hands.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-midterms-anxiety-20101014,0,2470983.story
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 02:29 PM
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1. I'm sorry, but this isn't a one-hour drycleaner.
Nobody promised to completely change your life overnight. In this day and age everybody expects that nothing should take longer than a McDonald's drive-through meal, and anything that's wrong you can just use the microwave or pop a pill for, but it doesn't work that way.
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independent_voter Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 02:35 PM
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2. so show us the blueprint for addressing the harm from free trade, we dont need the finished product
oh right - there isnt one

and that's a problem a condescending scolding of the base wont help
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 02:36 PM
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3. +1
!!
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 02:37 PM
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4. People were promised hope & change and got chump change instead.
Be honest why don't ya, instead of posting more b.s. excuses.

Corporate America has benefited BIG TIME since Obama took over while millions of people are losing jobs and homes with NO END in sight.

That's the reality and it ain't pretty.

Two years is plenty of time to get some shit done and LITTLE has been done to help the people!

The American people are NOT as stupid as the powers that be in Washington DC or people like you think they are! :grr:
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independent_voter Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 02:40 PM
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5. A failed economic model was bailed out, wall street showers itself with OUR borrowed cash
Edited on Thu Oct-14-10 02:42 PM by independent_voter
and corporate America still tosses workers to the curb in favor of foreign

i lived through reagan - with the exception of the arms buildup, economically obama has been as bad as reagan

reagan didnt bail out wall street, and American workers werent being repalced with foreign nearly as much as now
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 02:43 PM
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6. Isn't "hope & change" great?!
:sarcasm:
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independent_voter Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 02:45 PM
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7. i had parsed his statements on H-1b visa policy before he was elected
Edited on Thu Oct-14-10 02:48 PM by independent_voter
what few anyone could pry out of him anyway

i knew what was coming - free trade business as usual, no matter how bad things got
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 03:54 PM
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17. I knew it during the primaries too, but no one would listen because they were to busy believing
in the hype & change.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:13 PM
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22. Blaming Obama for a bill signed by Bush shows that you are looking for an excuse to bash Obama. nt
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independent_voter Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:16 PM
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23. you're saying senator obama didnt vote for it?
Edited on Thu Oct-14-10 05:17 PM by independent_voter
he did, along with mccain

and giethner has hardly inspired confidence that any strings were put on the money
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:34 PM
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25. Horse shit.
Some people thought he could change the world in a week and then when they realized we still had a Congress got frustrated and gave up.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 02:46 PM
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8. I guess as long as the banksters got their bonuses
the rest of us can wait for the change to piss down on us.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 02:49 PM
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9. Is it a two year "change we can believe in"?
Edited on Thu Oct-14-10 02:53 PM by Better Believe It
Is the economy better now than two years ago?

That's the question millions are asking themselves.

What's your answer to that?

And please, show a little honest compassion and empathy for those suffering instead of snottiness.

I'd expect to see that boorish attitude from some rich conservative who isn't bothered by the economic crisis, but not from a progressive.
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independent_voter Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 02:53 PM
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11. well, you'd better believe it
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 03:39 PM
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16. Actually, yes, the economy is better now than two years ago.
It takes longer than two years to fix eight years of GWB's machinations.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:07 PM
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19. Excuse me, but I AM one of the ones suffering.
My job was one of the ones lost effective January 1st, 2009, and I've been unemployed for all but two months since then. That does not constitute a reason to throw up your hands and declare that all is lost and we might as well hand the planet back to the assholes who fucked it up in the first place. Suffering does not excuse shortsightedness. To answer your question, yes, the economy IS better than it was January 20th, 2009. Ask the 500,000 people who did NOT lose their jobs this month. Ask the 500,000 people who didn't lose their jobs the month before that. Ask the people who are actually working again thanks to nine straight months of private sector job growth. To have somebody rescue you from a flash flood, and then blame the rescuer because they didn't prevent the flood from happening, is petty.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 02:50 PM
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10. dismissive and flippant
"...completely change your life overnight."

interesting, I have not heard of ANYONE with that expectation.

& the rest of your post is pure arrogance also..
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:11 PM
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21. I reserve the right to dismiss propaganda journalism.
Bullshit shaped to sell a narrative that Obama and the Dems are just as bad as the Republicans, when that couldn't be farther from the truth. But feel free to buy into it if you like.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:33 PM
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24. I simply didn't buy into your ridiculous assertions
that everyone wants change over night or better yet, like a double whopper with cheese. :thumbsdown:
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 02:53 PM
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12. Most people aren't wanting change overnight,
But a bit of progress would be nice, a few steps closer towards the light at the end of the tunnel.

Instead, Wall St. gets bailed out, the elite get their money, the insurance industry gets a mandated monopoly, and we the people, we get bupcus, zip, zero, zilch, nada.

In fact many of us get attacked in return for our support in '08. Just ask teachers, anti-war folks, the LGBT community and others. Mmm, change.
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independent_voter Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 02:56 PM
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13. wall street got the world history's largest jackpot, pronto, with no strings at all
Edited on Thu Oct-14-10 02:58 PM by independent_voter
for making one of the biggest blunders of all time, that would have left any of the 'little people' ruined for life
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:08 PM
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20. If what you said had any resemblence to reality, you might have a point. nt
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independent_voter Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 03:23 PM
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14. they're disgusted because they feel trapped between 2 parties that couldnt care less about them
and the only thing either party has to say is

'but the other party is worse'
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:37 PM
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26. But let me guess--you're here to tell us why the Republican Party is better, right?
Cause they'll lower your taxes! And socialism is bad! And we shouldn't be spending money on domestic improvements...no, instead what we should do is ship all that cash to the Middle East, along with some more soldiers for the meat grinder!

I am so sick of this argument. Guess what--one party is objectively worse than the other, and one party consists ENTIRELY of people who want to fuck them economically. There is no South Park "the truth is somewhere in the middle" equivalency bullshit here.
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independent_voter Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:40 PM
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28. no, all they have to say is 'democrats are worse'
and if you actually read what i wrote, you'd already know that
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:40 PM
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29. so start a third party instead of sitting there helpless
This is a government by and for the people. If people want to sit back and be led from those chosen for them by someone else, let them move to a dictatorship somewhere.

Sorry I have no patience for those who don't vote. And she doesn't get to complain either.

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independent_voter Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:42 PM
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30. i just stated my impression of what these people are thinking
and attitudes like yours will only convince them they;re right
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 05:39 PM
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27. Everybody has to deal with work and child care.
Just seems like one more chore? Very self indulgent. Let her stay home. Then she can't complain.

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