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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 07:01 AM
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On MS NBC this morning. Jim Cramer - I know he is some kind of money-talk show on another station.
Is he Democratic or Republic? He seems pretty good - just glancing at it. His delivery is good, but what about his politics???

anybody know?
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mitchleary Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 07:13 AM
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1. He used to have a show
with Larry Kudlow, and CNBC split them into having their own shows. Sure, Kramer is not nearly the level of scumbag Kudlow is but make no mistake his god is money, I would say he is more libertarian than democrat.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 07:14 AM
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2. Yeah, I know...He's in the center-left wing of the Capitalist Party.
Otherwise known as the Democratic Party
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 07:53 AM
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9. Well, so far I've got the answers that he is a Democrat, a libertarian. and that he leans right. I
I tried googling him, but couldn't find out his politics. Are you SURE he is a Democrat. I want to know for sure before I send MS NBC an e-mail????
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 07:15 AM
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3. He leans right
but sometimes takes more moderate positions. The guy is wired. He either is on drugs or needs drugs.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 07:18 AM
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4. Jim Cramer's politics are MONEY!!
Typical wall street greed monger.
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 07:29 AM
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5. he's a heart attack looking for a place to happen.
I just can't watch him. Too hyper.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 07:47 AM
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6. I canda like the hyper. If he's on the correct side of the fense - Democratic - is the deal braker
or maker with me.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 07:52 AM
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8. He is a Democrat. Here are his political contributions.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 07:57 AM
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10. Thanks much. That's what I was wanting to know. Puts his money where his mouth is. I like that.
I'll now send a positive e-mail to MS NBC. Again, thanks !
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siligut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 07:58 AM
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11. He hates Bush! Or at least seems to.
Cramer is smart and quick, hypo-manic, as opposed to drugs, I think. He has the show Mad Money on CNBC now. He seems to be a Democrat, but money is his deal. He helps me with that part.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 07:50 AM
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7. Pump and Dump Stock Pusher
I for one can't stand the guy. For a little fun check out his stock picks versus Leonard the Wonder Monkey at

http://cramerwatch.org/
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jollyreaper2112 Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 08:21 AM
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14. wow
Good resource. Just lays out how big of a scumfuck the guy is, same for the other brooks brothers demons of his ilk.

I confess to confusion. I recently watched a Wall Street Confidential segment on The Street wherein Jim Cramer described how hedge fund managers basically juice the market to close out their years in good positions. I don’t know whether to laud him for being so honest and blowing the whistle on this stuff or scream at him for being the sort of ass that created this situation in the first place. See my dilemma?

I’m not naive…the market has always be subject to the predations of those with inside knowledge and capital. As famous entrepreneur Mark Cuban recently said in on his Maverick blog, “The stock market is for suckers.” It makes me wonder how Cramer feels when he knows this manipulation goes on and yet he continues to opine on various stocks and make buy and sell recommendations using company data and history (his much vaunted research) knowing full well that those same stocks and futures can be pumped or squashed by some punk hedge fund manager out to increase his year-end bonus. Screw the small investor who puts his or her five grand into a stock Cramer recommends -- those fund managers and investors have got Manhattan condo fees to pay.

Cramer says were he a hedge fund manager, he would have manipulated prices to achieve the results he wanted. (See the video here)

“If I was short at my hedge fund, positioned short and I needed it down I would create a level of activity beforehand that would drive the futures.” said Cramer. “It didn’t take a lot of money. Similarly, if I was long and I wanted to make things rosy I would go in and take a bunch of stocks and make sure they were higher. I would commit five million in capital to make it happen. You need perhaps ten mil in capital today to knock stuff down, but it’s a fun game. A lucrative game. You can move it up and then fade it, that can create a negative feel…you boost the futures, then the real market comes in to knock it down and that creates a very negative view. It’s a strategy that is very effective. I would encourage anyone in a hedge fund to do it. It’s legal. It’s a quick way to make a lot of money and it’s satisfying. No one would ever admit to this. Although I’m not going to say that on TV.”

Jim is at least honest, although this would seem to be skirting the prohibitions on market manipulation or fomenting.

“Hedge funds are positioned long/short unlike mutual funds that are positioned long; so it’s vital that you manage the market, it’s vital for your payday that you don’t let the market lift.” Cramer continues. “Take Research In Motion (RIM) you can't let that rise like it has. You need to use a lot of your firepower to knock that stock down because it’s a fulcrum stock. If I was short, I would hit a lot of guys with RIM. You can’t foment and you can’t create by yourself an impression that a stock is going down. That’s a violation SEC rules. But you do it anyway because the SEC doesn’t understand it. It’s blatantly illegal, but hedge funds that are down have to be more aggressive. It’s important to foment the impression that RIM, for example, isn’t good. When you see an offering you would hit this guy and that guy. If I wanted to go higher, I would take and bid, take and bid. If I wanted lower, I would hit and offer, hit and offer. It might cost me ten million to knock down someone like RIM, but it would be fabulous because it would beleaguer all the moron longs. If you are in bad position it’s important to get people talking about RIM as if there is something wrong. Get the Pizzanis of the world talking negatively about it. Then you call the Journal and get the bozo reporter to do a story on PALM and some new product giveaway of theirs. It’s the sort of thing you must be doing at a hedge fund today and if you are not maybe you shouldn’t be in the game.”

So, there you have it -- break the law, juice the market and feed disingenuous info to the “bozos” of the media. Nice. So again my dilemma; respect for Cramer’s honesty or distain for the fact he was one of the architects of this system.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 07:59 AM
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12. If you listen to him, do the exact OPPOSITE of what he recommends...
That is the only way you will make money listening to this guy.
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jollyreaper2112 Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 08:13 AM
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13. I trust him about 1/100th of the distance I can throw him
And that's because I'm using Bush's advice and catapulting the propaganda.

When you're selling stocks, every day is a great day to buy, or at least that's what you're telling the marks. But any qualified investment advisor will tell you that stocks are just one option and some years there might not even be any worth picking.

This asshole is along the lines of your typical pump and dump cheerleader and that's before we even mention his clownish antics with sound effects and screaming.

Personally I'd just as soon see Wall Street bulldozed into the harbor. They're a bunch of greedhead motherfuckers who are nothing but parasites sucking the lifeblood of this country. They don't help move capital to where it's needed, bettering the lives of this nation's citizens, they're just out to make a buck and fuck anyone who gets in their way. Their rendered remains should be vitrified in glass bricks to prevent their poison from leeching back out into the environment.

What, bitter about the finance boys? Me? Of course not!
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 08:26 AM
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15. Cramer's An Acquired Taste
The dude knows his shit about money and investing. He's one of the rare talking heads on CNBC that isn't in bed with one broker or another. For those interested in learning about the investing world, this guy is a great teacher as he's not really fazed by the egos and greed. Yes, he loves to make money, but as a challenge, not through trying to push stocks that he knows are ringers (like other CNBC talking heads) and will take companies on for their past and current policies.

Honestly, I peg him as a "centrist"...socially liberally but fiscally conservative and generally apolitical on things that don't directly affect the financial world.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 08:30 AM
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16. I think he's good friends with Spitzer
Were friends since College, if I've got the right Dem.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 08:43 AM
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17. Cramer's politics are "making money."
Edited on Mon May-21-07 08:45 AM by Zynx
He's said both extremely anti-Bush and extremely anti-Democrat things. Apparently contributes money to Democrats, but that doesn't mean he's "progressive" or anything like that. If an "evil" company will make money, he'll recommend buying it.

He also has, in his own words, admitted to unethical/illegal behavior when he was running his hedge fund.

Knows his stuff, but this is not some squeaky-clean political ally or something like that.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 08:45 AM
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18. I liked Steph Miller-- I wish MSNBC would hire her
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 08:49 AM
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19. David Gregory was most my speed....
Are they just trying stuff out to see what works?
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