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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 11:49 PM
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School's back in session, and the level of anti-Gay bullying & violence is heating up
I blame the schools & colleges, particularly those involved, for not doing a better job of educating their students, setting firm punishment for bullying, and enacting a student force to report questionable texts/emails/wall postings on facebook/and tweets which are abusive. Some schools outright ignore complaints about kids being bullied for being Gay, and others downplay it as kids being kids, or blame the kids for being Gay, or appearing in questionable attire which 'asks' for it. Also, many teens have spent the summer at youth camps organized by churches, and we all know how a lot (not all) of churches treat being GLBT, and those sermons and classes the kids have listened to all summer are showing themselves.

I believe if the people on Dharun Ravi's tweet list had been educated about harassment properly, ONE of them would have reported his bullying last week, or confronted him by asking why he didn't just ask for a different roommate if he was so offended?

Driven to suicide by bullying in just the past 2 weeks due to bullying from students either at school, heading home from school, or through cyber-bullying. School should be a place where a kid or teen is safe, not bullied to death. RIP guys...





Bullies Flourishing with Christian Support, says Hodge

Candace Chellew-Hodge, one of my favorite 'listens' on podcasts, because she is a Christian who is Gay, is the founder/editor of Whosoever: An Online Magazine for GLBT Christians and currently serves as the pastor of Jubilee! Circle United Church of Christ in Columbia, S.C. She is also the author of Bulletproof Faith: A Spiritual Survival Guide for Gay and Lesbian Christians

http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/candaceche... /

She had this to say about the role religion is playing in bullying, and Focus on the Family's actions regarding congressional legislation ---

(snip)
In her CNN appearance, Cushman swore that Focus believes "every child should be protected from bullying" but they, and other Christian groups, continue to fight against anti-bullying measures that would specifically target bullying against gay and lesbian students. Even though studies show that specific policies are more effective than general anti-bullying policies, Focus and their cohorts continue to fight it because they believe it demonizes Christians and gives special status to gays and lesbians.

Instead of being concerned for the actual lives of gay and lesbian children (or those perceived as gay and lesbian), Focus' true motive is to continue its political and religious agenda at the expense of these children. Their own position paper on the subject accuses groups like the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network or GLSEN, which advocate for the gay-specific bullying policies, of using the policies to create diversity training, "evade parental rights" and "circumvent traditional marriage laws."

While it's true that teaching children to value each other no matter what their sexual orientation or gender identity may lead to more tolerant people -- it's disgusting to see an organization put its morality politics over the lives of children.

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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 11:52 PM
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1. Our lives are not seemingly important to many.
There are a number of ways this is demonstrated by peoples of all political, religious, monetary, and ethnic persuasions.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 11:58 PM
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3. short & spot on. And all this going on along with the Bishop Long controversy.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:01 AM
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6. For me, the most disappointing things come from our "own side."
It is one things to hear hateful rhetoric from the right, it is quite another when it comes from the left. I guess, in my mind, I actually have more respect for haters on the right because they at least have the guts to call me "faggot" to my face and not behind my back.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 11:55 PM
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2. I gave my dad shit for showing me an anti-GLBT "joke"
That his friend sent him on the internet... needless to say after everything I've read today I didn't find it funny in the slightest - and I'm not easily offended. Why does our society choose to bully people because of who they are? I'll never understand that.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:00 AM
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4. thanks for doing that. I've had to do it also.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:17 AM
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10. And the thing is - I'm not that easily offended.
That was just over-the-top offensive. And with all the shit that's been going down lately it just didn't seem funny to me.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:01 AM
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5. K and R. I blame the schools too. And inertia. And cowardice.
Edited on Thu Sep-30-10 12:03 AM by Smarmie Doofus
I am beginning to more fully understand how so many Germans could "not know" as millions of their fellow citizens were marched off to the camps.

My school administrators addressed respect for GLBT's as an issue publicly for the first time in *25* years last year. Had to be shamed into it.


We are curious creatures, we humans. We don't wanna know what we don't wanna know.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:13 AM
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7. This is getting to be beyond the pale.
I work with more than a few kids who are in the position of being bullied for the reality or simply the perception that they are gay. And I am scared for them tonight.

I am going to post something that is absolutely beyond the pale, but this guy actually volunteered to be interviewed on CNN. This is my negative post. I will post something more positive next.

Michigan Assistant AG Bullies Gay College Student ("Satan's Representative") on Blog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqNxi349e6A&feature=rela...
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the redcoat Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:18 AM
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11. I literally just watched this 10 minutes ago
It is physically sickening how twisted this man's mind is. I can't comprehend how he uses freedom of speech to justify such skewed, hate filled vision of the world. Everything he's done is a personal attack, but he's somehow convinced himself it's entirely political.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:20 AM
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12. Exactly.
It's amazing that he could get to the position he has in the world.

Something is very wrong.
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the redcoat Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:15 AM
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8. I'm kind of
torn between two mindsets, and i realize this might make me sound like an ass, but I'm being honest.

On one hand, when it comes to kids in school, I find it pointless and sometimes counterproductive (to a point) to pass huge numbers of anti-bullying regulations in the hopes of eradicating all bullying. Morality can not be forced on people, especially teenagers. It has to be taught in a way that they comprehend what bullying results in, and they have to be taught at home, not school. Anti-bully policies without an honest attempt at connecting with the student body will only push them away and make them cynical.

On the other hand, I can't, in good conscience, advocate ignoring this problem. Bullying used to just be something you dealt with because the world is made up of strong, weak, asshole, and nice. It was nothing personal; I think even the bullied kids knew that, and it taught them about life. But now, it's obvious that bullying has turned into something with pure, deep-rooted hatred, and not just hatred for a person, but for who that person is on a fundamental level. For lack of a better term, it's a complete mind-fuck for the person being bullied.

Yes, I realize these are gross generalizations. There have always been exceptions.


But I believe bullying policies are not the way to go. We need to show teenagers the results of these actions; show them things they wouldn't be able to realize on their own. And not with corny low-budget PSA actors, but with real, honest discussion.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:16 AM
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9. Dan Savage's 'It Gets Better' Project
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/conversation-project-je...

This is the positive I came across today!

For Savage's youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/itgetsbetterproject
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:28 AM
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13. It does not surprise me. As gay right expand, it riles up the bigots...
Edited on Thu Sep-30-10 12:29 AM by Luminous Animal
African American students were targeted decades after segregation. My own high school years in the early 70s (70s!) was marred by my advocacy for civil rights. It is time for all good straight youth to stand with their LBGTQ brothers and sisters.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 06:06 AM
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14. K & R - This is way to important not to discuss more in the homes & schools of this nation!
If we are truly a democracy with laws, those laws should be for all and decency should hold true for every citizen. It will never be perfect but it needs to be a foundation that those in power, either CEO's of Facebook, Twitter, etc. or Government Officials need to take more seriously!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 06:12 AM
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15. recommend
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 02:43 PM
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16. kick, for the 5 dead (and more we will never know why died & were just found dead, runaway)
Edited on Fri Oct-01-10 02:50 PM by Divine Discontent


Mr. Chase, openly Gay, hung himself
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