Meg Whitman you *#)%ing HYPOCRITE. Did you think we were all that stupid??!!

[LynneSin]

You do realize it we were going to find out about the illegal immigrant you hired. And you'll find every excuse to cover your ass but never thought of actually dealing with the issue before you election started instead of sweeping it under the rug and think we would be too stupid to find it.


http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68S5AN20100929

Ex-maid says Whitman knowingly employed her illegally

A former housekeeper to California Republican gubernatorial nominee Meg Whitman surfaced on Wednesday to say that the former eBay executive knowingly employed her illegally and treated her poorly.

The Whitman campaign moved quickly to counter the allegations by Nicky Diaz, saying the housekeeper from Mexico lied about her immigration status when she was hired in 2000, providing a Social Security card and other documents that appeared to show she could legally work in the United States.

[marmar]

1. She seems like a really horrible person.

nt

[TheCowsCameHome]

2. Negative feedback for you, Meg.

tee hee.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

3. The hypocrisy is so thick you could cut it with a knife!

I'm really hoping this will derail her candidacy (lol) big time.

[jberryhill]

4. So what is the evidence that Meg Whitman knew? /nt

[JuniperLea]

5. Dig around here and you'll find a story...

About how the social security administration contacted Whitman several times...

[jberryhill]

14. Yeah, I read that story

That's the claim made by the housekeeper.

Where's the letter?

[Fresh_Start]

6. Our government sent her a letter saying that the SSN and name

did not match.

[K8-EEE]

12. Well there's a little hint right there....nt

[jberryhill]

15. Where's the letter?

Without the letter, it is she-said/she-said.

[thereismore]

24. Yes, well, tough cookies for nutMeg. It's not like they would never make claims without proof. nt

[jberryhill]

38. LOL... Allred?

The maid gets paid, Allred gets a cut, the case goes away.

[Fresh_Start]

28. I got the same letter year after year....

until I updated my name at the Social Security administration.
My SSN was in my maiden name, my W2 and tax return were in my married name.

[Marr]

48. This is not a legal case.

Well, it is-- but only for the maid, Whitman, and Allred. In terms of politics, Whitman suffers from the accusation, if her opponents are smart enough to repeat it as often as possible.

What's more, Gloria Allred is no idiot. I assume she would be able to back up her argument with evidence.

[Scurrilous]

7. K & R

:thumbsup:

[MrScorpio]

8. All I can say is, Yay, Gloria Allred!

:yourock:

[treestar]

9. Republicans believe that the rules just don't apply to them.

They are above them.

[grantcart]

10. Take her cover story, that she just realized that the woman was undocumented

If Whitman is so clueless as to believe that this woman was not an undocumented worker then she certainly isn't savvy enough to become Governor of the State of California.

[LynneSin]

13. You have a very valid point with your comments +1

If the maid is telling the truth then Whitman is scum because she feels she is above the law.
If the maid is lying and Whitman didn't know then Whitman is dumb as a bag of rocks and probably shouldn't be governor.

I don't know about the rest of you multi-millionaire politicians but if I were a multi-millionaire politician I would have combed over my employment records of every nanny, lawn person, chauffer, maid, cook etc etc to make sure I knew their employeed history and any skeletons by heart.

Whitman clearly didn't and really proves she is unqualified to be a govenor.

[jberryhill]

16. No, if the maid is lying, then Whitman's response is....

"See, that's why we need tighter restrictions, national ID, etc., because small employers can't verify fake documentation that illegals provide."

Without the letter from the Social Security Administration, Whitman has an entree' into promoting more extremism.

She was the "victim" of an undocumented worker passing fake documents.

[grantcart]

21. and the response to that should be

if Meg Whitman is so clueless as to be fooled by an uneducated undocumented worker then she doesn't have what it takes to lead one of the most complex governments in the world. She is clueless.

[jberryhill]

22. And how would you, or anyone else, confirm whether the documents were fake?

Explain what she was supposed to do.

I have an employee, and I've never done any verification of her paperwork. Who am I supposed to call? Or should I only give extra scrutiny to Hispanic employees?

I dunno, maybe my employee sneaked in from Canada. Tell me what I'm supposed to do.

[grantcart]

31. You miss the point

She believed the worker and thus is gullible.


You can and should check SSN of employees with the Social Security Administration


http://www.ssa.gov/employer/ssnv.htm


It will identify numbers that have numerous users, or whose biographical information is inconsistent with your employee.


In any case whether or not Whitman bothered to check or not no intelligent person would 'believe without doubting' that any domestic worker who stayed in a domestic position for 8 years had a reasonable chance of being an undocumented worker with fraudulent documents. Ms. Whitman believes that employers should be held responsible and in her case I agree.

[jberryhill]

45. For W-2 employees, not 1099 contractors - the maid was hired through an agency /nt

[JuniperLea]

32. La Migra knows...

I'm not sure why the right hand can't communicate with the left hand. The IRS knows too... but I'm sure they just keep all the money they take in but can't identify the source. So the people who use those ID's can't get a refund either. Funny how that works.

[jberryhill]

39. If you use someone else's SSN, that can be worked around

The claim is that the maid was using a relative's SSN.

With enough fancy footwork, the IRS can be kept happy in that type of situation.

The maid is also telling two stories:

1. Whitman saw a letter from the SSA and ignored it.

2. Whitman fired her when she confessed in 2009.

Those two stories don't fit. The maid wouldn't need to confess if Whitman had seen the letter earlier.

[aquart]

35. She's a multimillionaire.

She can afford an employee who checks the documents of other employees. Really, she can.

The most foolish thing you can do is equate yourself to someone at her income level. When the hammer comes down, she can afford lawyers and PR people to get her off. Can you?

BTW, it really is NOT that hard to find out if name and Social Security number matches.

http://www.ssa.gov/

Scroll down and they give you a way to contact them. Gosh, a five-second Google. Our government is online now.

[jberryhill]

37. You can't verify someone else's ssn there

"she can afford lawyers"

Whoop de doo. I AM a lawyer, have a substantial income, two employees, and wouldn't have the first clue about how to check whether their SSN's are correct.

Show me the link on that page where I can punch in an SSN and it tells me who that person is.

[aquart]

43. That's why you use Contact Us and ask them.

But that is how my non-lawyer mind would go about it.

[DearAbby]

26. An undocumented worker conned Whitman

FOR NINE FREAKIN YEARS...she isn't smart enough to be Governor of California.

It's a no win situation for Whitman.

[jberryhill]

46. No an employment agency did

The maid wasn't a direct hire

[LynneSin]

36. But would Allerd takethe case if she didnt have the proof?

I know the lawyeris a dem and would hope she had the proof before going public.

[JuniperLea]

19. Yep... and just three months prior to her announcing her candidacy...

June 2009 was when she "learned" of the issue; September 2009 she announced her candidacy. Seems to me this multi-million dollar campaign started long before either of these dates.

[robertpaulsen]

27. Good point about the timing. Her secrecy on this matter doesn't make sense.

If Whitman is truly on the level with her story, why did she sweep it under the rug until now? I can't think of any legitimate reason other than: she thought we wouldn't find out. This speaks volumes about what her style of governing California would be, and I would hope most rational voters could see through that veneer.

[JuniperLea]

30. I think the smart thing to do is get ahead of the story...

She had to know this would be a negative issue to her campaign. She should have brought it up first! Use her own experience to talk about immigration in her campaign... lay the story out the way she wants it remembered... because you know the first story you hear is likely the one you'll remember and believe.

[pinboy3niner]

17. That's a great point, grantcart

Either way, Whitman's doomed.

[PufPuf23]

11. Go Jerry Brown!!! Whitman is scum. nt

[JuniperLea]

33. Hear, hear!

Good to see you, PufPuf23!

:hi:

[Scruffy1]

18. I was born in the morning

but not yesterday morning. You don't have someone in your house for nine years without knowing their immigration status. What really bothers me is that she just threw her under the bud. With her dough she could have"retired" her and never heard about her again and the maid would be living happily in Mexico (or America). Says a lot about her as a sociopath to me.

[Ernesto]

20. HUBRIS......

Classic GOP characteristic
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hubris.asp

[SlipperySlope]

23. No way to make up that poll gap

Whitman would need an act of God to make up the gap she has in the polls now. This is just the nail in the coffin of her campaign.

[Hepburn]

25. Meg's "explanation" does not hold water, IMO.

Bullshit...if Whitman had sent in the employer's contributions and withholdings, long, long before nine freaking years would some governmental agency told her that the SS# does not jive with the info they have.

So...either she was paying under the table...or she ignored governmental letters...or she knowingly employed an illegal alien. None of that is good.

JMHO

[wiggs]

29. Since when has republican hypocrisy gotten in the way of a gop candidate? Maybe

Santorum? But that wasn't hypocrisy...it was outright racism and poor judgement. And weird stories. All the other hypocrites are still going. Delay is still free and dancing. Vitter, Craig, Ensign et all are still voting. Gingrich is still talking.

Point is...hypocrisy won't sink Meg, although I don't discourage talking about her hypocrisy. I think the bigger story is how this person who worked for Whitman was treated. An ordinary person appears to have been financially and emotionally abused. Whitman's own statement used the words "faithfully served," which might be used to describe a servant, slave, or favorite dog.

Whitman is an economic royalist. She is above the law, above having to feel compassion, above feeling regret for campaigning on hating immigrants and on throwing welfare recipients into the streets. I'm sure she believes she deserves billions in compensation while the economic unfortunate in California deserve destitution and tragedy. She is a continuation of the corporatism that has been a part of the power structure structure for a long time and that has led to moral, ethical, environmental, media, economic disease and disfunction. Corporatism is sociopathic and Whitman's stances on immigration, welfare, and her own employees might be characterized similarly, IMO. Should be....that's the story.

[stopbush]

34. Oh, it will sink her in CA this time around because she isn't a celebrity

like Ah-nold was when he got elected. I don't know how many idiot Californians I've met who told me they voted for Ah-nold because they thought it would be cool to have Ah-nold's name on their driver's license. This in a state where the Governor's name ISN'T on the drivers license!

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. Short answer, YES

She thinks we are that stupid. Or you missed the debate? We also forgot 'bout Enron by the way.

[Merlot]

41. Yes. She really does think we're all stupid.

And she thought that long before this issue came to light.

[PJPhreak]

42. I've been reading about this all day and have just a couple of questions...

Nutmeg is/was the CEO of EBAY a very large computer/internet based acution site,so one would think she is not only internet savy,but would understand how and where to check this kind of information?
Or would have someone on the staff that could?

Is this a correct assumption?

I thought so.

She is fantastically wealthy,so one can assume that she has a Accountant on retainer,one that would check for this kind of thing? I know i would.

So in my Humble opinion...

She is lyin like a sack 'O Shit in the Desert Sun!!

[TexasObserver]

44. Whitman reveals the callousness and greed endemic to the GOP.

Helping the woman become a citizen was of no interest to her.

[JuniperLea]

47. Kinda fun to look back at what we were thinking when this first broke...

What a difference a day makes!