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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 07:57 AM
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Let's call the Obama Administration what it REALLY is...a Corporate Trojan Horse
A trojan horse is a term used to represent a thing that appeared to be good, but was filled with negative elements. A trojan horse is a way to get a group of people on your side before you stab them in the back and infiltrate their base. The more and more I look at the performance of the Obama Administration, the more and more I see a group of people that never had any intention to being Progressive. To call the Obama Administration a progressive administration is a joke on so many levels. They have turned against just about EVERY long-standing Democratic voting bloc. If they go through with charter schools, that'll be the last straw. I'm already pissed that Teachers are taking the blame for the failure of American education. When Obama won, I didn't expect him to change everything. But I also didn't expect him to go after the Left because we're calling his administration out.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 07:59 AM
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1. Oh, let's not.
:eyes:
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:05 AM
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6. Let's open our eyes, not roll them.
The OP got it pretty much spot on, even without mentioning health care insurance, another area in which the corporate shill sneaked out of the horse and wrote the bill.
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LiberalArkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:15 AM
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13. I do have to agree..
But then I am idealistic. I could not bring myself to vote for Democrats here in the south when they were fire hosing blacks, and vietnam protesters. I have to look at what that person believes in. Maybe after Rahm and Summers are gone, things will change. But, I believe that most of leaders of the Democratic party are in bed with the wealthy elites and not the common people.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:22 AM
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20. +1.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:11 AM
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9. +1 Why can we not discuss policy disagreements & disappointment
Edited on Wed Sep-29-10 08:17 AM by hlthe2b
that I think most of us share with respect to our expectations, without ascribing some nefarious motivations (or as seen last night, to question Obama's masculinity)? Really, would it not be more useful to discuss how we might effect a change in his policies, to lobby those close to the administration, or other strategies? And, for the poster above, how can not voting for the DEMS be the solution?

Yes, we have reason to be disappointed in many areas. Let's discuss what we can do to change that, given the situation. :shrug:
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:25 AM
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21. Conspiracy theories are more fun than policy disagreements? Obama as Manchurian candidate is more
fun than discussing education (or health care or immigration or financial regulation) policy. ;)
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:00 AM
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2. It's why the owners love him so
Asinine post.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:00 AM
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3. That is fucking ridiculous.
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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:02 AM
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4. Wink Wink. Nudge nudge. Snicker snicker. You said Trojan!! n/t
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:03 AM
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5. Wait! Let's call the Obama administration a dog playing an accordion!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:05 AM
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7. YOU call it that. then go somewhere else.
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:06 AM
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8. Wait! Let's call the Obama Adminstration strong on gay rights.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:11 AM
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10. Bookmarked
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:12 AM
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11. Right! Let's stop attacking the Republicans and eat our own.
Great strategy!
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:16 AM
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14. Stop?? when the FUCK did this administration START attacking the right??
I seemed to have missed that.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:19 AM
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16. You certainly did. Stop watching Fox.
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:20 AM
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17. Whats the difference? Obama is to the right of even Dickhead Cheney on issues like gay rights.
Edited on Wed Sep-29-10 08:21 AM by Erose999

You think the Blue Dogs, the DLC, the NDC, Joe Libermann and the rest are "our own"? We need to purge the non-progressives from our ranks.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:13 AM
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12. I saw someone else use that trojan horse bit the other day.
It's a ridiculous idea, nothing real about it. People forget that the President represents ALL Americans, not just the personal issues ones. Novel concept, huh?
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:17 AM
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15. I guess I'm one of those
"personal issues" people you speak of. Crazy, wanting to stay alive and all. Will you pay my medical bills until the pre-existing conditions are no longer held against us? It's only a few more years.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:22 AM
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19. Health care reform is an area that I share major disappointment...but
Edited on Wed Sep-29-10 08:24 AM by hlthe2b
what would you be asking, had McCain/Palin won in 2008? At least there is some chance for improvement, albeit not nearly adequate to the current problem, I agree. (and many of us, myself included, are in your same boat, so I truly empathize)
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:29 AM
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24. We all KNOW that Palin/McCain would have been worse.
We just think Obama/Biden could have done better if they'd only tried. It took us since the beginning of time to get ANY health care 'reform', so I think I'll be pushing up proverbial daisies before it's improved.

Thank you for your empathy, and I hope you are able to get the medical treatments you need as well. :hug:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:31 AM
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25. And you, as well.
:hug:
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:38 AM
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27. No, I'll be paying my own.
The preexisting conditions insurances are open now, as of July 1, 2010. But in 2014 both of us will get subsidies if we qualify for them. We all have personal issues, but they can't rule our lives.
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:43 AM
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28. We all have personal issues, but they can't rule our lives...
tell that to my cervical cancer. It has a way of just taking over and yes, ruling my life.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:51 AM
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32. I'm sorry you have cancer.
My friend had cancer, it's hard for everyone. Take care.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:20 AM
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18. Go away...nt
Sid
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:29 AM
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22. Way over the line.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:29 AM
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23. It isn't complicity.
The far rightists and the owner class cannot STAND Obama.

Trust me, I'm forced to watch CNBC 8 hours a day. Various members of the merchant caste are on there morning and afternoon.

You want me to sum up what they say (and CNBC's overall message) in 2 sentences? "Obama and the Taxocrats are fucking things up for me and my boys. They're preventing us from being as wealthy and as ruthless as we can possibly be, so that's why all of YOU have to put the Republicans back in power and MAYBE we'll loosen the purse strings and start hiring again."

Oh, yeah, and you're not getting a progressive president. Depressing, yes, but that's reality. You'd have to have millions upon millions of people on OUR page for that to happen. Much of America thinks we're the nutjobs for sticking up for the people instead of the TeaBastards, who stick up for the owners. We're not even on the same page within our own PARTY.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:36 AM
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26. No, IMO his problem is that he was too influenced by Neo-Liberal nonsense in his college days.
Edited on Wed Sep-29-10 08:36 AM by Odin2005
He was at the Uni. of Chicago, after all. I've become convinced, given his past as a community organizer, that he seriously thinks he's doing the right thing, he has boughten the Neo-Liberal ideology hook, line, and sinker.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:48 AM
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31. Why don't you just call him a Democrat?
I'm f'n sick of the purity test and the never ending slots some people think they can put other people into.



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Scruffy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:43 AM
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29. And now you know the nature of the game
I have known for a long time that the political game is rigged in favor of the owners and that the real choices have pretty much been suck and sucks a little less. This whole teabag thing was custom made for blue dogs to look good. Having said that I'm a big boy and love politics and politicians. They sure beat the hell out of bad comics like Colbert. At least they are in the arena, even if the arena is more like pro wrestling than honest combat.
I think that as long as we have a capitalist system this is how its going to be and I don't see that ending anytime soon, so we'll keep scraping along fighting for crumbs because that is who we are and what we do. Also I think a lot of our mess can be attributed the great ignorance of the voters. I don't expect that to change anytime soon either. I also don't see a viable third party yet and so its another election in our imperfect democracy. See you at the polls.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:48 AM
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30. Why don't progressives elect a progressive - because they can't as a minority vote
Edited on Wed Sep-29-10 08:49 AM by stray cat
until progressives can convince more than 30% of independents to vote for their definition of a progressive - they have no more right to their pet candidate than the tea partiers do
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:53 AM
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33. Let's call this OP what it REALLY is...
but that wouldn't be polite....
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 08:55 AM
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34. Locking.
The moderators feel this is over the top criticism of President Obama and his administration.

Puglover DU Moderator
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